I think it's that the shadow is the one doing the tagging.I absolutely hate Shadow tag no longer catching ghost types, AkA...the shadows
What shadow are we catching/tagging at this point?
I think it's that the shadow is the one doing the tagging.I absolutely hate Shadow tag no longer catching ghost types, AkA...the shadows
What shadow are we catching/tagging at this point?
I absolutely hate Shadow tag no longer catching ghost types, AkA...the shadows
What shadow are we catching/tagging at this point?
Alternatively, since the Japanese name is "stepping on shadows", this suggests that the user is somehow "pinning down" the shadow of a physical being and preventing it from fleeing. Since Ghost-types are incorporeal, they can't be trapped in this fashion.I think it's that the shadow is the one doing the tagging.
Decidueye does that too with Spirit Shackle (Shadow Stitching in Japanese, to quote Bulbapedia, a fabled ninja technique that restrains a target's movements by pinning their shadow with a kunai or shuriken.), it fires an arrow at the target’s shadow, pinning the shadow and by extension the target to the ground. Also in the animation the arrow foes a fancy little loop to physically hit the opponent before circling around to hit the shadow.Alternatively, since the Japanese name is "stepping on shadows", this suggests that the user is somehow "pinning down" the shadow of a physical being and preventing it from fleeing. Since Ghost-types are incorporeal, they can't be trapped in this fashion.
Some opinions are unpopular for a good reason.Shadow tag is an overrated ability. It's okay but nothing crazy. It has many counters. Only effective against hyper offense teams.
Reminds me of Big Yellow's video about banned strategies in past Pokémon gens (I think?), where he said Sand Veil was so busted in Gen 3 that people used Cacnea alongside Cacturne. Thank dog there are no longer any Pokémon whose only ability is Sand Veil/Snow Cloak.I remember when Dugtrio got Suspect Tested in Gen 7, people on the Suspect Ladders were trying out Diglett and Trapinch, and despite their even-more-garbage stats, managing to get many of the same jobs done because removing the ability to switch altogether neuters almost every playstyle on principle.
Tactics like this are why Shadow Tag was banned. It was considered to lock out fundamental gameplay mechanics to the point of overcentralization and favoring the random match-up between teams vulnerable to Trapping (like Stall or Bulky Offense) rather than the skill of the players building and running a team.Is Shadow Tag now baned? That is so sad.
I had a Wobbuffet and a Gothitele with this hability in my team. First go with Wobbuffet for the enemy use some status move, then I use encore. Then I switch to Gothitele with this Shadow Tag and use trick with a Choice Scarf. GG, the enemy is forever locked in a status move.
Any good OU team would have 2-3 mons with u-turn, volt switch or flip turn, 1-2 ghost/dark plus if shadow tag is legal, then a shadow tag pokemon. That's atleast 4 mons which Gothitella can't trap. The other two mons u should not put on the field till Gothitella is out.This is flatly untrue in practice. Goth is able to come in and trap whatever has just KOed another Pokémon on its team, because obviously real battling is done in Set Mode. If you have one or even two Goth answers on your team like Scizor and Incineroar, the presence of Goth in team preview still forces you to only KO opposing Pokémon with those direct answers to Goth. This puts you at a huge disadvantage since your opponent can KO your Pokémon with whatever Pokémon they have without having to worry about that.
Shadow Tag isn't broken on paper, but is absolutely broken in practice. That Gothitelle, which has pretty awful stats, is legitimately viable in ubers more than proves that. A counter is worthless when you can't switch it in.
1) Never sending out 1/3 of your team until Gothitelle is out simply is not an option for the vast majority of teams. There are a ton of threatening offensive Pokemon in the tier, and teams will need to use Pokemon which aren't trap resistant to cover them. Oh yeah, some of those threatening offensive Pokemon can also U-Turn into Gothitelle as you switch into your check to just freely eliminate them.That's atleast 4 mons which Gothitella can't trap. The other two mons u should not put on the field till Gothitella is out.
Could be worseRemember when Pokemon mostly used berries as their fictional foods? How every berry had a description of an either unexpected taste or unusual feature, especially for a fruit/vegetable?
Remember when berries were also stand ins for vegetables?
now we have realistic apples and potatoes
woot -_-
Can I ask a serious question? Did you actually play competitively before Shadow Tag was banned or are you theorymonning out your ass right now?Any good OU team would have 2-3 mons with u-turn, volt switch or flip turn, 1-2 ghost/dark plus if shadow tag is legal, then a shadow tag pokemon. That's atleast 4 mons which Gothitella can't trap. The other two mons u should not put on the field till Gothitella is out.
In Gen 6 ubers, Mega gengar was pretty common but i never found it to be OP. I mean it was good but nothing crazy. I never played competitive before gen 6 so probably not.Can I ask a serious question? Did you actually play competitively before Shadow Tag was banned or are you theorymonning out your ass right now?
I'm not super familiar with Mega Gengar in Generation VI but when trapping a specific Pokémon, you don't leave your trapper to get KOed by an opponent, do you?I'm not really sure that a tier with a 770 BST Ground-type on nearly every team being able to (barely) handle a poison type with Shadow Tag is evidence that the ability isn't massively powerful.
That's fair, but Tyranitar and Deo-A are the only remotely common Pursuit users in Ubers (Mega Gengar's SM article also mentions Marshadow but I don't think I've ever seen it carry Pursuit and it isn't listed on its analysis even as an other option), and in the case of Deo-A (and Marshadow) Pursuit only forces a 50/50. I would be dubious that Pursuit is enough of a balancing factor to justify Shadow Tag being healthy in XY/SM but as I said I'm not really an Ubers player, and this probably isn't the thread for that discussion anyways.I would count the removal of Pursuit as a notable change in Shadow Tag's favour since all mons with it are weak to Dark and it being gone allows the trapper to choose their matchups even more than previously.
Yeah no, take it from someone that's not from the anglosphere; dubs never countCould be worse
Gen 5 eng dub calls literally any obvious fruit a berry, and any obvious vegetable a veggie
I mean A N Y, so apples are berry, carrots are just veggie
I love Berries too. They are not forgotten, but I feel like they are pushed out of the spotlight. The Berry descriptions from RSE were an incredibly fun read, I loved the idea some of the rarest Berries are flat-out legendary.Remember when Pokemon mostly used berries as their fictional foods? How every berry had a description of an either unexpected taste or unusual feature, especially for a fruit/vegetable?
Remember when berries were also stand ins for vegetables?
now we have realistic apples and potatoes
woot -_-
*old man voice* Back in my day, Liechi Berries were only found on Mirage Island.RSE said:A mysterious Berry. It is rumored to contain the power of the sea.
A counterpart of Liechi? Ganlon is Groudon, Liechi is Kyogre? I sea...RSE said:A mysterious Berry. It is rumored to contain the power of the land.
Told you they are Legendary! Salac is clearly Rayquaza in edible form!RSE said:A mysterious Berry. It is rumored to contain the power of the sky.
Apparently Petaya is Mew. Mew!RSE said:A mysterious Berry. It is rumored to contain the power of all living things.
This confirms the player character is an über genius for finding out how the Apicot Berry should be used.RSE said:A very mystifying Berry. No telling what may happen or how it can be used.
"So strong"? How could a Berry be "strong"? Is it a weapon of mass destruction or something?RSE said:So strong, it was abandoned at the world's edge. Considered a mirage.
Same, which makes it extremely underwhelming to just find them lying on the ground in later games.I loved the idea some of the rarest Berries are flat-out legendary.