There won't be, if that's not enough and there's enough player support, the next step would be an outright ban. Any restriction is honestly pretty generous, as it's an attempt to make It balanced. Smogon while it desires a balanced meta, normally will avoid any attempts of balancing anything beyond that. The last balancing nightmare we know of is gen 5, and even now that's still debatable on how balanced it is. Though, it is enjoyable sometimes. The major question is what the people who will end up voting think. And until there's a survey, there's no legitimate way of even having an idea, and even then opinions can change.
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3
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Thanks for telling me, next time I will be more careful about that, recently saw theories about the new Tera type here and thought that even the name could be useful, didn't know about the Centro situation, so as I said I will give more attention, thank you so much.
Ribombee will drop with Ghold in the tier. Webs has some atrocious matchups, moreso after the Gliscor ban. Cinder completely guts webs if Ribombee dies, so you are put in an awkward position where you can’t just lead with Ribombee and keep webs up. Boots spam is bad for webs for obvious reasons. Boots Zama, Dnite, Hex Pult, and Unaware walls all present problem for Webs offense.
It is of course possible to get to high ladder with webs in the current meta, but you have to deal with a bunch of awful matchups, one of them being very common post-Gliscor (Cinder).
Really?
Then how did it managed to stay in OU for 2 months in a row?
You could argue that the first month was just "new toy syndrom" but what about the second?
Shouldn't she have fallen already?
In the 2nd month, Gliscor was still in the tier, which discouraged usage of Cinderace.
I've seen a top-player using Cinderace in webs with sd to beat the opposing cinderace.
He was very high ladder. However, he is good enough to win even while playing a bad mon in his team, so... I'm not sure that this option is really good
Smogon should add a confused slowpoke like options for posts like this because I don’t follow the logic. Rimbombee somehow becomes better when more common means of hazard removal are in the game?
CobsonYaoi
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I think that Lando-T will drop to UU since I rarely see it at all anymore, but I think Goodra-Hisui will rise to OU cause it feels like I see it every three or so games. Then again the highest ELO I ever went to was in the 1500's so...
I played around 1500-1600 and almost 1700 and I saw Landorus-Therian in some games, I tried to use it too, but I finally replaced him by Tusk...
I think Lando may stay ou, perhaps rise in usage stats, because of gliscor ban. Lando is the best ground user of u-turn, so it can be a good pivot and a good scarf
We'll see the stats tomorrow or in a few hours maybe
Edit: Stats are in! Lando-T is 20th with around 10% usage!
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We're so back Chompbros
I'm honestly surprised torn-t missed out on OU again, 3% again. Do people not realize its good or something?
Also HOW THE FUCK IS PEX STILL OU? Pex is not good at all and its still here. I guess Toxapex is the new Iron Treads, as it is OU despite not being good here at all.
I just want ladder to let Pex drop
Also HOW THE FUCK IS PEX STILL OU? Pex is not good at all and its still here. I guess Toxapex is the new Iron Treads, as it is OU despite not being good here at all.
I just want ladder to let Pex drop
It's still a really solidly bulky wall with a great typing and ability for bulkier balance and stall-based cores that can deal with setup sweepers and spread toxic after its greatly nerfed accessibility.
To be fair yes its typing is good, and Waterpon cannot really break it, but its a liability everywhere else but hard stall, which isn't even good right now for very obvious reasons
CobsonYaoi
formerly Holesum420
I don't know if you're just joking but Pex is still really good. It walls tons of threats in OU such as Iron Valiant, Skelederge, Ogerpon-Water, Iron Moth, Gholdengo, etc. while it sets up TS and burns opponents with Scald fuckery.
Pex doesn't get scald anymore. Plus Glimmorra is usually better for toxic spiking in an offensive meta like this, as Glimmora hits reasonably hard
Water/Poison is good but for a bulky support Mon, Mola is simply better
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CobsonYaoi
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I'm mixing up SS and SV now what's wrong with me.
Pex can whittle down the opposing team and have its teammates clean up for it while Glimmora just sets up rocks and dies.
At least one of our OU staples is back in OU, (RIP Ttar), let's hope it rises in usage because the DLC may make it drop it again due to the new toy syndrome.
Technically yes it can do that, but in a hyper offensive meta where Pex sinks momentum and cannot start it it feels like a wasted slot a lot of the time unless you run hard stall (Which isn't good right now). Glimmora is a better Toxic Spiker on most teams because of the fact that it can outright threaten things and get hazards up. Having offensive firepower and or having utility is important in a crazy meta like this, and Pex is lacking in both right now
Landorus jumping to #10 without Gliscor makes sense, but Garchomp being #35 is funny.
Even with all of the recent bans, it still can't get above 10% usage.
Even with all of the recent bans, it still can't get above 10% usage.
Garchomp did have some help with Roaring Moon being banned too. It now only competes with Dragonite and Dragapult as Dragon type sweeper.
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