Super-Effectivemons

[CPU]

We just gave Blissey Final gambit guys. That will probably need to be dealt with

Blissey can use Final Gambit normally. You just need to KO something with Accelgor's Final Gambit, give Blissey a Scarf and Copycat.

On a more serious note, Final Gambit will let Blissey check all the powerful Special sweepers in the metagame. Snorlax also gets it.

 

[Azumarill's Rage]

Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird
- Diamond Storm
- Crabhammer

Diamond Storm hits Rotom harder and more accurately than Bolt Strike and is neutral against Ampharos-mega so it is overall the better option.

Also how does Thousand Arrows (http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/thousandarrows.shtml) work?

Thousand Arrows works the same as Land's Wrath at this moment sadly :c. Its supposed to ignore ground immunity.
Thousand Arrows + Flying/Fire Move!

 

[Valmanway]

Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird
- Diamond Storm
- Crabhammer

Diamond Storm hits Rotom harder and more accurately than Bolt Strike and is neutral against Ampharos-mega so it is overall the better option.

Also how does Thousand Arrows (http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/thousandarrows.shtml) work?

Diamond Storm's more accurate, yes, but Bolt Strike is 30 points stronger. And as for Thousand Arrows... I think we could include it, but I'd like to focus on what we have right now as opposed to what's yet to come.

 

[Ranger Mike]

two things: 1.) ban no guard sheer cold golurk:P 2.) Sacred. Fire. Jirachi. need I say more?

 

[Valmanway]

two things: 1.) ban no guard sheer cold golurk:P 2.) Sacred. Fire. Jirachi. need I say more?

I dunno, Sheer Cold is uber cheap with No Guard, but Golurk is awfully slow, even with a Choice Scarf, so that's debatable. And Jirachi took quite a hit in effectiveness this gen, so I doubt 100% burn chance from it could be that broken. Annoying, yes, but probably not broken.

 

[Throbulator36]

I dunno, Sheer Cold is uber cheap with No Guard, but Golurk is awfully slow, even with a Choice Scarf, so that's debatable. And Jirachi took quite a hit in effectiveness this gen, so I doubt 100% burn chance from it could be that broken. Annoying, yes, but probably not broken.

But doesn't this follow standard banlists? if it does then sheer cold is banned anyway

 

[g]

Diamond Storm's more accurate, yes, but Bolt Strike is 30 points stronger. And as for Thousand Arrows... I think we could include it, but I'd like to focus on what we have right now as opposed to what's yet to come.

Sorry i thought it was 150bp for some reason...
Anyway my question was: "Would talonflame get Thousand Arrows?"

 

[Valmanway]

Sorry i thought it was 150bp for some reason...
Anyway my question was: "Would talonflame get Thousand Arrows?"

Oh sorry, I misread. The answer is no because Thousand Arrows is an exception to the type formula. Ground can't hit Flying, so Thousand Arrows will not be accessible to Fying-types.

 

[Valmanway]

But doesn't this follow standard banlists? if it does then sheer cold is banned anyway

Ah, I forgot that ban. lol Also yes, this will follow the standard banlist.

 

[SpaceCake]

Terrakion @ Focus Sash
Ability: Justified
Evs: 252 Atk 252 Spe 4 HP
Jolly
-Play Rough
-High Jump Kick/Mach Punch
-Power Whip
-Stone Edge/Bullet Punch
This shit is gonna ruin lives. Play Rough to hit Fighting types and sash to live Conkeldurr's Mach Punch and destroy it. BP or Mach Punch for priority to hit other Terrakions that are scarfed. BP is to hit fairies. Power Whip is filler.

 

[Jaguar360]

Oh guys, Energy Ball Blastoise and Clawitzer:
Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
Ability: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Water Pulse/Scald/Hydro Pump
- Energy Ball
- Ice Beam/Dark Pulse/Dragon Pulse
- Rapid Spin/Aura Sphere
Blastoise also gets Recovery with Synthesis now and Boltbeam.

Flying and Water types in general get Boltbeam now for the most part so that's interesting.

 

[Ranger Mike]

mewtwo tease (Greninja) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Quiver Dance
- Moonblast
- Giga Drain
- Secret Sword

Very good coverage and hits very hard after a qd as I'm sure DizzyDancer would know.

 

[Valmanway]

Terrakion @ Focus Sash
Ability: Justified
Evs: 252 Atk 252 Spe 4 HP
Jolly
-Play Rough
-High Jump Kick/Mach Punch
-Power Whip
-Stone Edge/Bullet Punch
This shit is gonna ruin lives. Play Rough to hit Fighting types and sash to live Conkeldurr's Mach Punch and destroy it. BP or Mach Punch for priority to hit other Terrakions that are scarfed. BP is to hit fairies. Power Whip is filler.

Definitely gonna want to replace Power Whip with either Earthquake for Aegislash or Stone Edge for Talonflame and Gengar.

 

[SpaceCake]

Definitely gonna want to replace Power Whip with either Earthquake for Aegislash or Stone Edge for Talonflame and Gengar.

Or just run Thousand arrows

 

[Valmanway]

Or just run Thousand arrows

That's very true, but I think we should focus on what's been released already.

 

[Albacore]

Aegislash gets : Will-O-Wisp, Curse, Parting Shot, Taunt + King's Shield, Destiny Bond, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, Switcherro, NASTY PLOT, Topsy-Turvy + King's Shield LOL, Dark Void, Confuse Ray,

... Shadow Force, Pain Split, Spikes, Earthquake, Earth Power, Fiery Dance, Blue Flare, V-Create, Sacred Fire, Thousand Arrows, Thousand Waves, and Trick-Or-Treat+Pursuit.

I think it's safe to say that Aegislash is a threat.

 

[TheAmazingFlavio]

mewtwo tease (Greninja) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Quiver Dance
- Moonblast
- Giga Drain
- Secret Sword

Very good coverage and hits very hard after a qd as I'm sure DizzyDancer would know.

Yes, I would know.
Anyways, Terrak is out of this world in this OM:
Terrakion @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Sword
- Shift Gear
- Horn Leech
- Aqua Jet/Thousand Arrows
After one shift gear it'll wreck (almost) everything

 

[Ranger Mike]

Yes, I would know.
Anyways, Terrak is out of this world in this OM:
Terrakion @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Sword
- Shift Gear
- Horn Leech
- Aqua Jet/Thousand Arrows
After one shift gear it'll wreck (almost) everything

Post your just insane mega venusaur set for the world to see it's evil.

 

[Monte Cristo]

As a stall player I have 3 ideas to throw out (on mobile rn so not much commentary):
°Leech Seed / Spiky Shield Quagsire / CroCune
°Will-o-Wisp / Defog MegaSaur
°Scald / Steam Eruption Heatran

 

[Valmanway]

Wow, a lot of these sets look really good. I think once we get some more ideas for other Pokemon, I'll add them to a list of top threats to look out for.

 

[TheAmazingFlavio]

The set Ranger Mike is talking about
Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 SDef / 252 HP / 252 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Cosmic Power
- Leech Seed
- Oblivion Wing

 

[Azumarill's Rage]

... Shadow Force, Pain Split, Spikes, Earthquake, Earth Power, Fiery Dance, Blue Flare, V-Create, Sacred Fire, Thousand Arrows, Thousand Waves, and Trick-Or-Treat+Pursuit.

I think it's safe to say that Aegislash is a threat.

That too, i mainly said more defensive aegislash sets though, aegislash is kind of bad at pure stall

 

[Kit Kasai]

Riolu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
-Copycat
-Fly
-Dig
-Something (does it learn swords dance?)

Because this glitch still exists.

 

[SpaceCake]

Latias @ Leftovers
Evs 252 HP 252 Def 4 SpD
Bold
-Quiver Dance
-Roost
-Dragon Pulse
-Psyshock
gg no re

 

[MAMP]

Any Pokemon weak to fairy, flying, or grass gets reliable recovery. Coil + Moonlight Zygarde seems very threatening.