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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0
- Thread starter Slashmolder
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A - Wrong SID
B - You landed on another PID that would give you Timid.
C - Same as above except that you used a synchronizer, which worked on whatever PID you hit.
Most likely B or C.
Isn't there only going to be a pattern if the same exact number of frames advance through the cutscene every time? It seems like that will be unlikely, even with good mashing.
I don't think the NPCs are going to really hurt you there. In fact, the more Pokemon you catch, the easier it would be to narrow down a sequence, and you'll be able to completely ignore any NPC involvement. There will be gaps between the catches, sure, but I don't think that's going to matter.
The only problem I can see with this is that I think the starting frame you find from catching the Pokemon is probably going to be somewhat far away from the roamer's starting frame. It depends on when the PID of the roamer is generated and how long the rain lasts after that.
Speaking of which, does anyone have the picture of when exactly the roamer's PID is generated? I can't seem to find that anywhere.
From my experience, getting consistent results isn't a problem. It should be fairly easy to reproduce your results, and you should get a consistent pattern (assuming you mash through the cutscene about the same each time). Finding the starting PID is the more difficult part.
Awesome, thanks. I remember seeing that in the research thread but wasn't able to find it again.
I guess that means the wild Pokemon's starting PID should be pretty close to the roamer's PID, then. That should make things a lot easier.
I guess that means the wild Pokemon's starting PID should be pretty close to the roamer's PID, then. That should make things a lot easier.
I was able to get consistent results every time I hit the seed. The advances weren't consistent, but any particular number of Chatot calls gave me the same result every time. That's how I got it without using a Master Ball.
Ah, okay. I've noticed that there's only a few times during the cutscene where the "A" button actually does anything, so the constant mashing is just to keep those few meaningful presses on the same pace. Therefore, if your finger gets tired and you accidentally let up on the mashing during a part when the "A" button has no effect, if you can resume mashing at the same pace before the button actually does something, you'll be fine.
I can stop mashing after I dismiss the "Apparently it's that Pokémon's doing!" text, right?
Right. Once the text is gone, the rest of the cutscene will progress on its own.
Holy crap, I got the nature (and IVs) I wanted on my first try (0 Chatters)! So if I do the same thing again, I should get the same nature (there's not a >50% chance that I won't get it again because I won't match the button mashing well enough)? I'm tempted just to save and keep it in the Master Ball, especially since the Mean Look + Baton Pass combo I came with apparently doesn't work in 5th gen...
Gallade is the ultimate roamer catcher. Mean look, false swipe, hypnosis, t-wave. :D
You should be able to get the same nature again. It doesn't matter how you button mash. It takes a few seconds for the PID to start advancing during that little scene where your talking to the roamer so unless you're waiting like 5 seconds to press the button, it's not going to make a difference.
Alright, I'll give it a go. My Mean Look + Baton Pass Pokémon was a Watchog (was planning to BP to Breloom after a ML, then Spore + False Swipe), but he already knows Super Fang, and I can go to the Move Relearner and get Hypnosis back.
EDIT: YES, I DID IT! 31/31/31/31/31/31 Jolly Tornadus in a Premier Ball! :) Thanks so much to everyone for your help!
Your avatar seems appropriate for this moment.
Unless I'm remembering wrong, you only use the second half of your MAC address for C-Gear.
I have a question. Exactly how does snow affect the PID? Because I am abusing Thundurus in Winter and I found my initial frame but after 3 advances the nature pid goes erratic. Im not sure if its changing the PID severly or not. I am saved right before you encounter it and make sure it always fly away before the rain falls so I can actually try to hit a PID frame. Im just trying to figure out what exactly its doing so I can finally get the nature I want.
Well, judging from this picture, which details when the roamer's PID is generated, the PID is generated after it flies away and after the rain stops. So, getting through the cutscene before the rain starts isn't really going to do much of anything.
The snow (or rain, if it's not winter) will really sort of just pad the PID results by adding frames before the roamer's PID generation. If you mash through the cutscenes as fast as possible, the PID advancement from the snow and rain should be pretty consistent.
It seems that most people agree that getting consistent results isn't a problem, but that getting sequential results is (eg., PID frames 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, etc. don't match with PID advancements 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.), so that's why you're experiencing erratic results. Doesn't look like there's much you can do about that, unfortunately, and you just have to hope that your PID advancements land on the correct frame.
The snow (or rain, if it's not winter) will really sort of just pad the PID results by adding frames before the roamer's PID generation. If you mash through the cutscenes as fast as possible, the PID advancement from the snow and rain should be pretty consistent.
It seems that most people agree that getting consistent results isn't a problem, but that getting sequential results is (eg., PID frames 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, etc. don't match with PID advancements 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.), so that's why you're experiencing erratic results. Doesn't look like there's much you can do about that, unfortunately, and you just have to hope that your PID advancements land on the correct frame.
I've done that but I still don't know how to start or to set up the Reporter so I can begin doing the C-Gear method for eggs.
What do you mean? You're not doing anything wrong (other than aiming for shiny eggs with c-gear which is nearly impossible/pure luck if it happens). Just hit your delay and get the egg. If you hit the wrong delay a few times just enter the delay you keep hitting into the timer to recalibrate.
But to check if I hit a frame don't i have to to search IV's? I did this and it said no Iv's were found. I know I'm doing something wrong I just don't know what. Is it because I'm following what's under where it says Roaming Pokemon Location instead of the box on the bottom?
Edit: Do you think I'm not getting IV results is because I'm not advancing my frames after I start C-Gear with 5 Pokemon in my party and walking 128 steps?
You're not getting any results because the IVs of the hatched Pokemon don't correspond to the delay you hit because 3 IVs are inherited from the parents in breeding. You could fly to victory road and catch something after getting the egg to figure out what delay you hit.
Okay I'll try this then. This is to help calibrate to get the egg am I correct on this?
Yes, if you can't hit the right delay you will need to calibrate or vary your timing until you hit your target delay.
Isn't there a moving NPC in the house?
Thank you so much for the help and I am sorry for being a pest about this. I finally realized that it almost like gen 4's method. I feel so stupid; thanks again.