Tyranitar is lacking the Choice Scarf set
S Rank
Greninja-Ash
Choice Specs: S
Z-Crystal: A-
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probably because no one gear set is splashable on a wide variety of teams like say, specs ash gren or sr heatran, but magearna in general fits on a wide variety of teams with a wide variety of sets that can be tailored to the specific team & what you want it to accomplish. no one magearna set beats everything, but it can run so many sets it's considered s-rank on the whole as a threat.Great job guys!
Question: why is there no S rank set on gear? Is it oversight or is there an explanation?
Yes. It's so low because it's B rank on the VR and we don't rank anything higher than its actual rank. If you're proposing a Hoopa-U rise I'd recommend you to go over to the VR and nominate it for a rise there. You made some solid points for sure and I'd say that Choice Band Hoopa-U is realistically the only set that can be B+, so if it rises on the VR it'll probably rise here as well whenever we get to it.So, Hoopa is the best Choice Band user as a wallbreaker but lacks some features that don't necessarily belong to a Wallbreaker, are those reason enough to keep it so low?
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Hoopa-Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Landorus-Therian: 184-217 (48.1 - 56.8%) -- 38.7% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recoveryRaw Power: Nothing in OU can avoid the 2HKO from a neutral Hyperspace Fury with Adamant nature (which is more valid than ever now that Heatran rarely runs Timid nature).
With rocks up, so... He gets usually 2HKO'ed-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Hoopa-Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Landorus-Therian: 184-217 (48.1 - 56.8%) -- 38.7% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Ah yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for clarifying!probably because no one gear set is splashable on a wide variety of teams like say, specs ash gren or sr heatran, but magearna in general fits on a wide variety of teams with a wide variety of sets that can be tailored to the specific team & what you want it to accomplish. no one magearna set beats everything, but it can run so many sets it's considered s-rank on the whole as a threat.
It's merged with Defog.Srry, but where is shuca koko a.a ?
Great post, just gonna drop a few notesAs a general criticism, I think that a lot of these are too specific, and there's a lot of stuff that can be condensed or made more general to make the rankings a bit more accurate.
Some Suggestions:
- On Kart, Can we just change SD Normalium Z to say just "Swords Dance" and have it encompass all Z-moves? SD Z Fight and SD Z Steel are both great options in their own right to break through Celeteela/Sciz and Tornadus-T respectively while not providing a dead slot after the Z-move has been burnt.
- Can we just collapse both CM Latias sets into an overarching "Calm Mind" banner? CM Stored Power Surf is a solid option on some balanced teams, so having stored power ranked separately is a bit misleading, and mono attacking SP is hardly used outside of the stray reflect type as is, so I don't really think it's harmful to include them here.
- I think that DD MegaTar is still a really strong win condition against a lot of the balanced builds in the current meta and having it ranked 3 whole subranks below rocks seems like too wide of a gap, I'd move it up to B+ or A- for sure.
- Bulky Bugnium QD on Volc really should just say bulky QD because bulky psychium's still good and can be a solid wincon vs pex teams, yet not unique enough to warrant getting its own set.
- Is curse even usable on Sciz post-Zyg? I'd honestly drop it altogether or at the very least put it at like C+ or something to denote how much worse it is than SD because it's fucking trash rn.
- I know that Scarf Drill is pretty bad compared to its other sets, but I still think it's decent enough to get ranked here, somewhere around B-/C+ should be appropriate.
- Both the Lop sets really should be joined together, PuP is more of a filler option that fits better on some teams rather than actually being different enough to be its own set.
- Speedboosting Specs Clown is fucking trash the only reason why speedboosting CM is good is because you can switch moves and actually sweep/can boost multiple times to offset the power drop, either just put Choice Specs or axe it altogether. I think Scarf is still a neat niche option on some really offensive teams that could fit in around C+ as well.
Because it's not. No single Magearna set is actually S tier; it's the combined presence of all of Magearna's sets that push it into S. If there was a Magearna set worthy of S it definitely would be a Shift Gear set and not an Assault Vest set.Why is atleast AV Magearna not S tier?
Magearna is an S Rank threat, unlike Protean Gren which is in A Rank. We wanted to accurately portray Magearna's multitude of sets, whereas we didn't really feel like that was necessary for something like Protean Greninja. Offensive Protean Gren (ignoring scarf and sash) generally runs 4 attacks or 3 attacks + spikes and we felt dividing these by either physically based (low kick / gunk / beam or uturn / z dig / beam or hydro) and specially based (hp fire + hydro sets) was a good enough distinction.Why are there so many sets with minor changes for Magearna but not for Protean Gren?
Scarf Garchomp is a rather bad Pokemon and is quite one-dimensional as a niche revenge killer. When compared to the more common Scarf LandoT, LandoT can serve as a fast pivot, hazard control, and speed control while Scarf Chomp can only be a speed control.Why does Garchomp not have scarf or mixed as any sets?