Look, sorry for the double post but if no one else here wants to post then I guess I'll just continue on. I know that STABmons is going to RIP in Sept, so I'd like it to at least be in good shape on its way out.
I also don't really care at this point that it's not very good manners on these threads to post massive lists like this, but I'm basically talking to myself in terms of actually ranking things instead of the philosophy of VRs. I'm pretty depressed by how many changes are actually implemented, so I figured if I nommed 30 things, maybe 7 of them would actually happen.
Things in A+:
Weavile -> A
This has been discussed already
Latios -> A
This has been discussed already
Things in A:
Sylveon -> A+
Sure, it gets wrecked by steels, but it provides unmatched mixed wallbreaking and has good matchups against a lot of the tier. It's a great offensive check to Keldeo, Thundy, Weavile, Lopunny, Latios, TTar, and plenty of other stuff.
A-
Aerodactyl -> A+/A
Adamant Band is way better than A-. Nothing relevant walls it with rocks up. Only Lando, M-Bro, Garchomp, and Ferro can really do anything to it defensively, but they all get 2hko'd with rocks. Also it's fast as hell and resists normal. I honestly think this would be S if Head Smash didn't miss.
Clefable -> B
Get this shit off the VR. Sorry wishes, I don't care. It does NOT check Taunt Thundy. It flat out loses even if you double into it and Thundy doesn't just hit it or taunt it on the switch. Hell, it also has a good chance to lose to TWave Thundy. Basically no other special attackers even bother setting up, which makes its only niche useless. CM + MG Clefairy is flat out bad, since everything and their grandma can 2hko it. Sylveon is so much better it's ridiculous (if you want to talk about utility, unblockable spinning and heal bell is nothing to scoff at).
Serp -> A
Teams typically pack 1-2 checks to this, but it can sleep one of them and run coverage for the other. It has a sick speed tier right above Thundy, and dissuades people from clicking Defog.
Starmie -> B+
Hazard clearing is a dumb niche when there are like 5-10 new hazard clearers to play with. Keldeo and Heatran checks are pretty easy to come by too. 100 SpA just doesn't cut it either.
Torn-T -> A
This has been discussed already
TTar -> A
Probably the premier Thundy check for offensive teams alongside Sylveon. Struggles with Lando, Ferro, and Keldeo, but it can run coverage and Keldeo doesn't like to switch into anything.
Ursaring -> A/A+
This is the strongest fakespeeder in the tier. It doesn't take a mega slot, and ghosts don't check it between Play Rough and Guts for Sableye and a stiff breeze for Gengar. SD sweeps pretty easily.
B+
Gardevoir -> C+*
*See previous post
B
Alakazam -> B-*
Alomomola -> Unranked*
Jolteon -> B+
Excellent Thundy check, can generate free turns with electrify/sub 50/50s, and can just win outright late game if fakespeeders and scarfers are gone.
Mega Pidgeot -> B+
Probably the toughest pokemon to swtich into in the tier, although it certainly has its faults. Chansey, TTar, and Heatran are really the only things that can, and they can all just get slept which is scary. Boomburst and Hurricane hit stupidly hard. It can pivot with UTurn, or run a recovery move. Takes up a mega slot, which is unfortunate.
Togekiss -> Unranked*
B-
Dragalge -> Unranked*
Mega Gallade -> Unranked*
Gastrodon -> Unranked*
Mandibuzz -> Unranked*
Seismitoad -> Unranked*
Snorlax -> A-/B+
The only pokemon that can pull off BellySpeed besides Azumarill. A great way for bulky teams to pretend that they're fast. It's much better than Stoutland anyways, now that Scrappy is basically useless.
Yanmega -> B+
Sweeps EZ with just a bit of help. Unfortunately that help is pretty hard to ensure (remove fakespeed and rocks). TG + 3 Atks is a really scary set that can set up on things like Slowbro and Lando pretty easily.
C
Celebi -> B-
Seems a bit better than the rest of the pokemon down here, but I dont realy care if it moves or not.
Conkeldurr -> Unranked
Goodra -> Unranked
Hawlucha -> Unranked
Hoopa -> Unranked
Moltres -> Unranked
Pangoro -> Unranked
Reuniclus -> Unranked
These are pretty garbage. I don't really care if they have some tiny niche because we're talking about fucking Moltres in an OU based metagame here.
Unranked
Mega-Venusaur -> B
We already agreed on this, why didn't it make the list?