+ Slack Off + Thick Fat
SD with setup sounds funny. esp as a nice ghost resist with recovery... but the downsides.... is that 90 attack is gonna let it down so much... and drapion isnt known for its bulk regardless, mots fire hits 2hko or 3hko anyway, it is a nice heatran check but its forced to click slack off every time, it just sounds to good on paper and in practice it will flop, even at +2 it isnt strong and lando-t pressures the fuck out of it, so does mudsdale, moltres hits it hard with hurricane, blaziken smacks it with CC, darm has t kick and flare blitz still nukes it. Overall it can have potential esp if u run bulk on it but i dont see it doing much esp against non fire/ice offensive threats and there are plenty of them
+ Teleport
The man with 4MSS alr with eq, WW, toxic, rocks, slack off.... teleport helps it compete with lando-t or mudsdale but good god it has to drop toxic or rocks which major sucks for it. If it could fit it that is it would be a major boon, prob it can drop toxic to be able to freely bring in smth, idk that requires experimentation and idk .
+ Magic Guard + Aura Sphere
LO sounds nutty esp against stall or BO that require stuff such as hazards to cripple it, CM goes nutty esp if it gets behind a sub considering how many things it forces out. Thing is if it competes with gengar, blace, and rapdiash but i really doubt it will shove it out.
+ Aerialate
Sounds like an ubermon but dd mence with aerialite makes it so it goes nuts... having no return sucks but the sheer power of double edge is nuclear
+1 252 Atk Aerilate Salamence Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Zapdos: 207-243 (64.4 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Yeah it does nuts damage.... but it doesnt have the longetivity and kills itself with chip + the damage it takes setting up + the recoil from double edge... its gonna hurt. Sounds very very good on HO and on balance offense sounds funny if special mence works due to having a viable special attack and hyper voice is very consistent.
252 SpA Aerilate Salamence Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Toxapex: 117-138 (38.4 - 45.3%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
This does a lot of damage btw... and its gonna be hard to switch into it but i respect it. its got a lot of potential
+ Ghost type + Poltergeist
Banded lycanroc goes nuts. Esp with poltergeist hitting for a lot on many major targets. downside is that u cant use knock spam otherwise that slowbro and dhelmise walls u.
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 135-159 (44.4 - 52.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 154-183 (38.1 - 45.2%) -- 9.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mudsdale: 169-199 (41.8 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 248 HP / 240+ Def Cofagrigus: 278-330 (87.1 - 103.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Yeah these calcs show a lot, poltergeist is such a good stab to have and i see potential
salamence <- lycanroc-d <- chandelure <- hippowdon <- drapion
SD with setup sounds funny. esp as a nice ghost resist with recovery... but the downsides.... is that 90 attack is gonna let it down so much... and drapion isnt known for its bulk regardless, mots fire hits 2hko or 3hko anyway, it is a nice heatran check but its forced to click slack off every time, it just sounds to good on paper and in practice it will flop, even at +2 it isnt strong and lando-t pressures the fuck out of it, so does mudsdale, moltres hits it hard with hurricane, blaziken smacks it with CC, darm has t kick and flare blitz still nukes it. Overall it can have potential esp if u run bulk on it but i dont see it doing much esp against non fire/ice offensive threats and there are plenty of them
+ Teleport
The man with 4MSS alr with eq, WW, toxic, rocks, slack off.... teleport helps it compete with lando-t or mudsdale but good god it has to drop toxic or rocks which major sucks for it. If it could fit it that is it would be a major boon, prob it can drop toxic to be able to freely bring in smth, idk that requires experimentation and idk .
+ Magic Guard + Aura Sphere
LO sounds nutty esp against stall or BO that require stuff such as hazards to cripple it, CM goes nutty esp if it gets behind a sub considering how many things it forces out. Thing is if it competes with gengar, blace, and rapdiash but i really doubt it will shove it out.
+ Aerialate
Sounds like an ubermon but dd mence with aerialite makes it so it goes nuts... having no return sucks but the sheer power of double edge is nuclear
+1 252 Atk Aerilate Salamence Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Zapdos: 207-243 (64.4 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Yeah it does nuts damage.... but it doesnt have the longetivity and kills itself with chip + the damage it takes setting up + the recoil from double edge... its gonna hurt. Sounds very very good on HO and on balance offense sounds funny if special mence works due to having a viable special attack and hyper voice is very consistent.
252 SpA Aerilate Salamence Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Toxapex: 117-138 (38.4 - 45.3%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
This does a lot of damage btw... and its gonna be hard to switch into it but i respect it. its got a lot of potential
+ Ghost type + Poltergeist
Banded lycanroc goes nuts. Esp with poltergeist hitting for a lot on many major targets. downside is that u cant use knock spam otherwise that slowbro and dhelmise walls u.
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 135-159 (44.4 - 52.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 154-183 (38.1 - 45.2%) -- 9.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mudsdale: 169-199 (41.8 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Lycanroc-Dusk Poltergeist vs. 248 HP / 240+ Def Cofagrigus: 278-330 (87.1 - 103.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Yeah these calcs show a lot, poltergeist is such a good stab to have and i see potential
salamence <- lycanroc-d <- chandelure <- hippowdon <- drapion