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sorry, i'd love to agree with you here in scenarios like these, but you're wrong :/In response to the video above, and on the much discussed turn 42:
'Why not going straight for the EQ, I don't know' = pardon my language, bullshit. Then calling it a choke while giving a wrong analysis is probably worse.
In hindsight, because Teso turned out to be CM Raikou AND CM'd on that specific turn, yes, EQ was Hiye's best play. But at that moment in the game, with the information available to Hiye combined with set probabilities and calcs, EQ simply was NOT his best play.
At 89%, no Hippowdon spread lives a combination of regular Raikou HP Ice + CB Victini V Create. Had Hiye EQ'd but Teso HP Ice'd first, CB Victini would click V Create twice and win the game for Teso 100%, since Hiye's Raikou would be unable to revenge kill it even at -1 spdef:
252 SpA Raikou Shadow Ball vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 240-284 (70.3 - 83.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
We knew this because Hiye (unlike Teso) has revealed using both Tbolt and Volt Switch after eachother ruling out specs, meaning once more that Victini would have won (Teso knew that Victini couldn't have been revenged by Hiye's Raikou, making outright clicking HP Ice seem even more logical in Hiye's mind, assuming Teso had one of two common Raikou sets).
This gives Hiye two sensible plays: a) Slacking Off to put himself at 100% to always live V Create + HP Ice (if it DID turn out to be specs he could've then switched out to Raikou regardless) OR hardswitching into Raikou, because:
Hiye was rocking the already less common CM Raikou himself, which beats the 2 most common Raikou sets 1v1, justifying Hiye, based on logic and probability, to hardswitch into Raikou like he did. Even if Teso was CM Raikou, AND CM'd on turn 42 (like ended up happening) this was by far the least expected play to happen and the only way for Hiye to lose, but even then Hiye's own Raikou had a good shot at beating it bar a random Shadow Ball coverage move on Teso's CM Raikou which ALSO ended up happening.
We are keen to call out people for choking nowadays from the sidelines, but how much could we blame Hiye for percentage wise simply making the best play given the information he had at the time?
Sure, outright EQing would've won him the game in hindsight, but the only reason he had for EQing would be if Teso's Raikou was ALSO CM Raikou AND Dared to CM that very turn. In any other scenario EQing would've lost him the game. Can we really blame Hiye for taking the most logical and probable way to win (bar Slacking Off, but this would've ALSO lost to Teso's Raikou set and play). What if Teso attacked, Hiye EQ'd, and then Teso won with Victini? We probably also would've screamed 'OMG he choked'. Nah. Hiye made one of two best possible plays for himself. I would've probably Slacked Off tbh (and still lost).
tl;dr Hiye's best play at the time was Slacking Off or indeed going straight to Raikou. Teso won because of a very situational Raikou set and playing it excellently. EQ was definitely NOT the play.
i don't see your match man, you got the wrong threadhow much do the services of the VoD Legion cost? i have a match coming up
Simple: why would he Tbolt to catch the Victini on the switch if he can also Volt Switch into Hippo? Then Hippo is at 95, making it much more likely to live the combination of aforementioned moves.2. instead of CMing, hiye uses tbolt to hit the victini on the switch. however, he still would've lost, because a +0 thunderbolt doesn't even 2hko victini, so victini tanks two tbolts and then kills raikou afterwards, and then the same thing happens. 252 SpA Raikou Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Victini: 135-160 (39.5 - 46.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Hippowdon wasn't sandre: the roll below when you consider sand it's pretty heavily in his favor
No worries dude. Nor my analysis nor WCAR's nor Staths was perfect either as everyone pointed out vice versa. It just showed that it was an interesting turn. I just wanted to show Hiye didn't 'choke' (as opposed to for example Asuya).Please understand that I'm just a human. In the heat of the moment I made a mistake. I hadn't really looked back on it since then. I have very little time between turns to make analysis, and if you pay attention, I happened to rush my thought process and make a multitude of [uneducated, and poor] analysis errors over that small duration of turns. Also keep in mind for the majority of the time, I was speaking with 2020 hindsight. Most of my commentary about turn 42 came afterward the turn had concluded. Mistakes happen, I am human. I apologise for my errors. Regardless, I have no problem being proven wrong, I am not perfect. I'm Sorry.
WCARS acting like he isnt part of the 95% of ppl spamming the chat with comments like "LOOOOOOOL" "WHAT A CHOKE"i agree with you on one thing tho, smogtours chat is fucking retarded during official tour matches and only approximately like 5% of ppl spamming the chat actually know what the fuck they're talking about so they shouldnt be talking and criticizing the game like they're some OU jesi or whatever