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Gonna make a few noms once again.
Thundurus
To A/A+
Yeah I'm on the Thundy train at the moment, this mon is amazing. Incineroar has just gone up to 60% usage, and Thundy is the Incin Police. This thing just destroys everything at plus one, also boosting its speed in the process. I prefer LOrb to AV but AV is very viable, and gives it a better MU vs the whale. Also if it isn't telling enough how good this mon is, in Pikalytics new usage update it is now the third most used, used more than behemoths like Lando, Urshifu, Rillaboom, and Zacian-C.
Kyogre
To A
I said in my last big nom post that I was unsure if this mon was good or bad, and I have come to a conclusion. This mon is heavily matchup dependent. Sure in a matchup where there are no Grass or Electrics present it completely destroys, but a good player will always have one of those. In these matchups, Kyogre struggles to find footing to fire off Water Spouts and is put in awkward positions. So in a way its basically exactly like Caly-S, hence why I think it should be the same tier as it.
Porygon2
To A+
This mon is super splashable. It fits on basically any balance team and compresses many rolls into one. Damage reducer? Check. TR? Check. Attacker? Check (Tri Attack does stupid damage after a download boost and the right EV spread). WP proccer? Check. Endgame mon? Check. It also has an added bonus of a TR setter that doesn't insta lose to Urshifu, as you can survive a banded CC and actually OHKO with a Tri Attack provided you get a SpAtk buff, which is likely due to Shifu's poor SpDef. There isn't really a good reason to not run this on your team, because why not have a better TR matchup and gain all the roles I listed above?
Tapu Fini
To A-
Yeah Fini is a very solid support mon sure, but the meta is very unkind to it at the moment. Just looking at the top ten on Pikalytics, 3 of the mons just OHKO, and P2 and Whimsicott which are 11 and 12 have a good MU against it, the former punishing its Icy Wind spam with TR. Oh and lets not forget the absolute L Thundy hands Fini. Like I said, still a solid support mon, but its just weak to the current trends. Essentially I agree with smogon account, good but not A tier good.
Amoonguss
To A-
Oh Amoonguss, what have the last two gens done to you. In the right MU this thing is great, but with support Fini, Thundy, and Safety Goggles being spammed, this is falling off.
Incineroar
To S+ maybe
Ok so I think we should be seriously considering this for S+, it's just on another level. Name one team that this doesn't fit on, I will wait. Intimidate is so good at completely shutting down some mons, or significantly neuter them. I mean look at Caly-I and Necro DM, on paper they are broken mons, but due to the presence of Incineroar they are nicher picks. This things movepool is also insane. Burning Jealousy, Snarl, Parting Shot, U-Turn, Fake Out, Flare Blitz, Darkerst Lariat/Throat Chop/Lash Out, and thats excluding some nicher moves like WoW and Stomping Tantrum. It just recently broke the 60% usage mark, and I know that Usage=/=Viability, but come on guys this is pretty telling.
Thanks for reading and I'll be back with more noms soon!To A/A+
Yeah I'm on the Thundy train at the moment, this mon is amazing. Incineroar has just gone up to 60% usage, and Thundy is the Incin Police. This thing just destroys everything at plus one, also boosting its speed in the process. I prefer LOrb to AV but AV is very viable, and gives it a better MU vs the whale. Also if it isn't telling enough how good this mon is, in Pikalytics new usage update it is now the third most used, used more than behemoths like Lando, Urshifu, Rillaboom, and Zacian-C.
Kyogre
To A
I said in my last big nom post that I was unsure if this mon was good or bad, and I have come to a conclusion. This mon is heavily matchup dependent. Sure in a matchup where there are no Grass or Electrics present it completely destroys, but a good player will always have one of those. In these matchups, Kyogre struggles to find footing to fire off Water Spouts and is put in awkward positions. So in a way its basically exactly like Caly-S, hence why I think it should be the same tier as it.
Porygon2
To A+
This mon is super splashable. It fits on basically any balance team and compresses many rolls into one. Damage reducer? Check. TR? Check. Attacker? Check (Tri Attack does stupid damage after a download boost and the right EV spread). WP proccer? Check. Endgame mon? Check. It also has an added bonus of a TR setter that doesn't insta lose to Urshifu, as you can survive a banded CC and actually OHKO with a Tri Attack provided you get a SpAtk buff, which is likely due to Shifu's poor SpDef. There isn't really a good reason to not run this on your team, because why not have a better TR matchup and gain all the roles I listed above?
Tapu Fini
To A-
Yeah Fini is a very solid support mon sure, but the meta is very unkind to it at the moment. Just looking at the top ten on Pikalytics, 3 of the mons just OHKO, and P2 and Whimsicott which are 11 and 12 have a good MU against it, the former punishing its Icy Wind spam with TR. Oh and lets not forget the absolute L Thundy hands Fini. Like I said, still a solid support mon, but its just weak to the current trends. Essentially I agree with smogon account, good but not A tier good.
Amoonguss
To A-
Oh Amoonguss, what have the last two gens done to you. In the right MU this thing is great, but with support Fini, Thundy, and Safety Goggles being spammed, this is falling off.
Incineroar
To S+ maybe
Ok so I think we should be seriously considering this for S+, it's just on another level. Name one team that this doesn't fit on, I will wait. Intimidate is so good at completely shutting down some mons, or significantly neuter them. I mean look at Caly-I and Necro DM, on paper they are broken mons, but due to the presence of Incineroar they are nicher picks. This things movepool is also insane. Burning Jealousy, Snarl, Parting Shot, U-Turn, Fake Out, Flare Blitz, Darkerst Lariat/Throat Chop/Lash Out, and thats excluding some nicher moves like WoW and Stomping Tantrum. It just recently broke the 60% usage mark, and I know that Usage=/=Viability, but come on guys this is pretty telling.