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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. Some moves like Toxic should have never been universal. It adds more depth to the game when movesets are varied.
Every single physical dark-type using Knock Off as its STAB attack, plus nearly half of all other physical attackers using it as a coverage move just oversaturates the game with a single tech.
Plus there are some moves that never sat right with me for thematic reasons. I would delete Brave Bird from Crobat's movepool in a heartbeat lol.
Ttar does, I'll check Weavile in a min
Edit: Yes, Weavile got Knock Off back
NVm, I just checked, it gets it. Weavile is back boys.
Also....
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Also....
Why would Meowscarada have gotten Scald? Meowscarada's a Grass type, not Water or Fire.
Toxapex is the only returner on that list that ever got it.
Check here for more organized movepoll additions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1c_322MP70wk__Jcf7AlMP9q1JA_M9szifAt06DPDwww/htmlview
Use this tread now for general talk now: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scarlet-violet-the-teal-mask.3727770/
Use this tread now for general talk now: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scarlet-violet-the-teal-mask.3727770/
https://x.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1701785616524980424?s=46
interesting to note there’s potentially more TMs in Part 2
interesting to note there’s potentially more TMs in Part 2
Ggs Toxic
The 2 new moves shown in the trailer weren't here, so it makes sense. Not to mention al the new Pokemon in the next wave would need materials and TMs to go with them.
The 30 stubs we had before just turned out to be for this DLC and not both waves, which is fun. Maybe all the moves in Wave 2 will be new?
Bringing this over here since its a little more relevant
So per Matt...
The Masks are held items. I asked for clarification, but I don't think that applies to the Teal Mask:
Cornerstone Mask An item to be held by Ogerpon. This carved wooden mask is adorned with crystals and allows Ogerpon to wield the Rock type during battle.
Wellspring Mask An item to be held by Ogerpon. This carved wooden mask is adorned with crystals and allows Ogerpon to wield the Water type during battle.
Hearthflame Mask An item to be held by Ogerpon. This carved wooden mask is adorned with crystals and allows Ogerpon to wield the Fire type during battle.
These masks are all held items and mention the type they apply
Teal Mask A teal mask patterned after the face of an ogre. Ogerpon dropped it while fleeing up the stairs after visiting the Festival of Masks.
but the Teal Mask doesn't mention being a held item and doesn't mention adding any type
Assuming the Home Datamine wasn't just missing a maskless asset, I think this + base Ogrepon not changing color with the Teal Mask implies that Teal Mask Ogrepon is monotype and the default version of it, with the Teal Mask we pick up being a key item we give back. Then you give it a different mask and it becomes a dual type.
Considering the grassy aspects of Ogrepon and the Teal Mask, I assume (but we dont have confirmation of) that it's mono Grass type and the others are Grass/Rock, Grass/Water and Grass/Fire
So per Matt...
The Masks are held items. I asked for clarification, but I don't think that applies to the Teal Mask:
Cornerstone Mask An item to be held by Ogerpon. This carved wooden mask is adorned with crystals and allows Ogerpon to wield the Rock type during battle.
Wellspring Mask An item to be held by Ogerpon. This carved wooden mask is adorned with crystals and allows Ogerpon to wield the Water type during battle.
Hearthflame Mask An item to be held by Ogerpon. This carved wooden mask is adorned with crystals and allows Ogerpon to wield the Fire type during battle.
These masks are all held items and mention the type they apply
Teal Mask A teal mask patterned after the face of an ogre. Ogerpon dropped it while fleeing up the stairs after visiting the Festival of Masks.
but the Teal Mask doesn't mention being a held item and doesn't mention adding any type
Assuming the Home Datamine wasn't just missing a maskless asset, I think this + base Ogrepon not changing color with the Teal Mask implies that Teal Mask Ogrepon is monotype and the default version of it, with the Teal Mask we pick up being a key item we give back. Then you give it a different mask and it becomes a dual type.
Considering the grassy aspects of Ogrepon and the Teal Mask, I assume (but we dont have confirmation of) that it's mono Grass type and the others are Grass/Rock, Grass/Water and Grass/Fire
Because I got hit with it while exploring. Gligar and Gliscor get Crabhammer now. Unless they had it before
They did not, the only non-Water type with Crabhammer pre-Teal Mask was Klawf.
Ngl I'm happy about this. Let offense reign.
Nope, all new, not even by breeding
This is all that gets Scald. Slowbro and Slowking are just the regular ones, not the Galarian ones.
Hariyama, Zoroark, Zoroark-Hisui, Zangoose, Cetitan, Azumarill, Grafaiai, Wigglytuff, Oranguru, Donphan, Eelektross, Toedscruel, Cacturne, Tinkaton, Seviper, Lycanroc (Midnight), Sableye, Wo-Chien, Roaring Moon, Golduck, Kricketune, Copperajah, Muk, Raichu, Leafeon, Krookodile, Hypno, Hydreigon, Iron Treads, Gengar, Quaquaval, Cyclizar, Iron Jugulis, Iron Valiant, Toxicroak, Gumshoos, Salazzle, Gallade, Goodra, Gardevoir, Slaking, Crabominable, Banette, Falinks, Passimian, Lurantis, Hypno, Heracross, Komala, Drifblim, Greedent, Meowscarada, Weavile, Skuntank, Scizor, Klawf, Persian, Perrserker, Great Tusk, Tyranitar, Swalot, Bombirdier, Lokix, Pelipper, Pawmot, Rillaboom, Chesnaught, Decidueye, Samurott, Tsareena, Zapdos-Galar, Mewtwo, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Tornadus, Thundurus, Hoopa, Zarude, Walking Wake, Meloetta/
No Knock Off on Lando? There goes its crown. At least Tornadus keeps it.
Knock Off Walking Wake scares me.
Random list for Toxic, and kind of sad Gliscor doesn't get it.
me when I find out Furret now might have a shot (it won't but this is a good 1st step so):
FURRETBROS WE WON
Full updated returning pokemon list?
Im sorry the fuck?
Tidy Up Furret. Furret
CRABHAMMER!
what was gamefreak smoking?
EDIT: no grassy glide breloom
EDIT2: Dual. Wingbeat. Koraidon. Im contemplating life right now