I thought your position on Wrap was "not OP but boring". I think that might be beyond the scope of this thread.#enslavewrap
also, never unban celebi from gsc, holy shit those games are boring
Any team with only one Snorlax answer risks getting immediately swept by Snorlax. That is pretty much the definition of overpowered.Ho-Oh sucks, imho. But I wouldn't unban Celebi. It's really really annoying. It would change the metagame ALOT. I don't think there is something too strong in GSC, so I'd rather leave it as it is. Bans/unbans most often lead to other bans.
ReflectZam comes pretty damned close; only Slowbro can come in on a healthy ReflectZam and defeat it. Persian 2HKOs but so does Zam and Zam's faster; the two best Swords Dancers are 2HKOed by Psychic as well. Nothing else can break it directly.Not to mention that of RBY's mandatory mons, none have standard sets that are unkillable (the closest is Chansey, who is basically Snorlax bait, ergo not unkillable at all), only gimmicky sets like ReflectNesia Lax and Reflect Chansey.
If Raikou's there and Snorlax isn't, is Zapdos really that overpowered?Frankly, I could live with GSC sans Lax, sans Zapdos, and leaving Raikou. Any Ground threatens to 2HKO Kou, and heavier-hitting ones like Marowak and Rhydon threaten to OHKO (Rhydon technically only maxes out at 96%, but that basically means Raikou, after switching in on Spikes or a STAB Thunder, is subsequently threatened to be OHKOed by a Rhydon if it switches in). Although Hidden Power makes it risky to switch most Grounds into him, you can grab momentum back from a Kou. The same can't be said for Snorlax, whose Curse set must be respected immediately, thereby instantly giving you the initiative against whatever if he comes in healthy; nor Zapdos, who is 2HKOed by precious little and OHKOed by none, and can therefore stay in for Thunder(bolt)s against whatever.
Basically, with Kou, your opponent can actually capitalize pretty heavily off your active mon and you need to think about how you'd stop that. With an active Snorlax or Zapdos you're just always in control no matter what you're up against, which in turn promotes brainless play.
Say it. I don't know what it is. "Free Garchomp"? "You're all a bunch of idiots who just need to learn how to pkmn"? "I'm the best"?Not gonna say it... not gonna say it... not gonna say it...
I personally love it when an old join date (in any forum) makes elitists and condescending posts. We gotta respect our elders and when they something, it's for a reason, even if they're wrong. Let it all out, E, it will please me. (No homo)Say it. I don't know what it is. "Free Garchomp"? "You're all a bunch of idiots who just need to learn how to pkmn"? "I'm the best"?
Literally better than Latios, which never was unbanned in the first place. And for that matter, they're better than Garchomp too.Remember that time Latias was OU? Remember when it was put on a suspect list? Remember when everyone agreed it was OU? Remember when it stayed in OU for a long ass time? Remember how this site kept on trying to ban it? Remember how it took several attempts to ban it and with the final result, it stayed permanently banned?
Well, about shaymin sky, what actually counters that thing in BW OU? It's so ridiculously easy to get a sub up with that if you got the momentum and then it realistically bullshits out everything that isn't Blissey immediately. this post probably showcases the general communities consense on this pretty well. But overall Skymin is just ridiculous if he gets a free switch - 60% to regain health with lefties and leech seed while hitting all mons immune to it in the tier super effectively (bar Ferrothorn, but what is it even going to do back?), stupidly broken Seed Flare that can turn every check into a non-check and a good variety of sets to run, like choice, growth in sun, sub seed, etc etc. Skymin might not be good if it has to switch into something, but that doesn't happen on hyper offense anyways. I mean i do question quite many bans in BW, but Skymin is definitely not one of them.What would happpen if we unbanned shaymin-S in BW, it looks annoying af to deal with, but it's general powerlevel doesnt seem too insane compared to the rest of OU.
If you're addressing me (I think my join date coincides with that banning) I'll let you know that I wasn't being sarcastic. And although I did want you to be rude I didn't mean to me ;_;dude your join date is like two months before garchomp got banned shut the fuck up
Serene Grace breaks Seed Flare and Air Slash. It's significantly better than Iron Head Jirachi, because it's faster, it's more powerful, and it has Seed Flare which completely wrecks anything trying to switch into it.What would happpen if we unbanned shaymin-S in BW, it looks annoying af to deal with, but it's general powerlevel doesnt seem too insane compared to the rest of OU.