Tournament Other Metagames Premier League III - SIGNUPS CLOSED

[skies]

pin missile isn't bad, knock off is mediocre, and superpower is alright but then you're just speedy.

also, if we're looking just at statistics:

1 No Effect 105 Not Very Effective 451 Normal Effectiveness 221 Super Effective <-- pin missile + gg
1 No Effect 44 Not Very Effective 490 Normal Effectiveness 243 Super Effective <-- superpower + gg
0 No Effect 23 Not Very Effective 550 Normal Effectiveness 205 Super Effective <-- knock off + gg

knock off, from these is hitting the least super effectively. bug is hitting the most nve, and superpower is kinda the mid range. none of them are, statistically, terrible. however, pin missile isn't "ass coverage" with steel >_>. also, an interesting calc:

+1 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Pin Missile (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard X: 153-180 (51.5 - 60.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

yeeeaaahhhh a 4x resist being 2HKOed by it...

eh, this really isn't the place to argue pin missile's worth. ~_~

 

[Peef Rimgar]

pin missile isn't bad, knock off is mediocre, and superpower is alright but then you're just speedy.

also, if we're looking just at statistics:

1 No Effect 105 Not Very Effective 451 Normal Effectiveness 221 Super Effective <-- pin missile + gg
1 No Effect 44 Not Very Effective 490 Normal Effectiveness 243 Super Effective <-- superpower + gg
0 No Effect 23 Not Very Effective 550 Normal Effectiveness 205 Super Effective <-- knock off + gg

knock off, from these is hitting the least super effectively. bug is hitting the most nve, and superpower is kinda the mid range. none of them are, statistically, terrible. however, pin missile isn't "ass coverage" with steel >_>. also, an interesting calc:

+1 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Pin Missile (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard X: 153-180 (51.5 - 60.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

yeeeaaahhhh a 4x resist being 2HKOed by it...

eh, this really isn't the place to argue pin missile's worth. ~_~

The coverage isnt bad but I would rather hit top tier mons and less generally than no top tier mons and more generally

 

[PlatypusVenom]

Pokemon Showdown nick: PlatypusVenom
Preferred OMs: STABmons, Monotype
Timezone: PST (UTC -8)
Foreseen inactivity: One week during late June or early July

 

[nyan kat]

Unfixable bug against char x isn't a 4X resist lol

 

[Kit Kasai]

Lol unfixable you can't just look like statistics like that. Bug IS ass coverage. Just because you are technically hitting more things doesn't mean it is relevant. The only things Pin Missile gets you over Knock Off are Houndoom, Gyarados Mega, Sharpedo, and Bisharp. The only things Pin Missile gets you over Superpower are Slowbro / Slowking, Bronzong, Jirachi, and Metagross (and some other stuff not viable in stabmons of course). Of those, the only relevant one is Slowbro, the rest are setup fodder / 2HKO'd by Gear Grind / unviable etc. And guess what, Knock Off gets Slowbro too. On the other hand, running Pin Missile allows you to be walled by very common physical walls like Skarmory and Gyarados, or basically any Steel or Fire type.

tl/dr: don't run bug on Scizor

 

[Anna says hi]

Anna says hi: should I sign up for OMPL?
@ Uselesscrab: yes Anna says hi

So I'm here to sign up.


PS Usernames: AnybodyAgrees, Anna says hi
Timezone: GMT -8
Preferred Metagames: Balanced Hackmons, Almost Any Ability
Forseen Inactivity: Nothing that I can remember.

 

[ryyjyywyy]

Pokemon Showdown nick: ryyjyywyy, ryyjyywyyii, ryyjyywyyiii
Preferred OMs: TS, inverse, BH, a little aaa
Timezone:central
Foreseen inactivity: not likely

 

[Raseri]

It's ass coverage with Steel. Do you want to use 2 moves that are x4 resisted by Heatran or run Knock Off and Superpower instead? I guess I know who not to recruit on my team: Pin Missile Scizorphiles.

pin missile is garbage buy me pls

 

[Kit Kasai]

When do sign ups end?

 

[termi]

PS nick: Robert Alfons
OMs: Tier shift, STABmons
Timezone: GMT+1
Inactivity: none

 

[leng loi]

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draft me plz

 

[Deathly ♛The King]

Just here to remind unfixable that he said he'd try to draft me n_n

 

[grurk]

Pokemon showdown nick:Grurk
preffered oms: stabmons, bh AAA and ts.
timezone: central standard time +0
forseen events: going to Japan in July for three weeks

 

[OM]

pin missile isn't bad, knock off is mediocre, and superpower is alright but then you're just speedy.

also, if we're looking just at statistics:

1 No Effect 105 Not Very Effective 451 Normal Effectiveness 221 Super Effective <-- pin missile + gg
1 No Effect 44 Not Very Effective 490 Normal Effectiveness 243 Super Effective <-- superpower + gg
0 No Effect 23 Not Very Effective 550 Normal Effectiveness 205 Super Effective <-- knock off + gg

knock off, from these is hitting the least super effectively. bug is hitting the most nve, and superpower is kinda the mid range. none of them are, statistically, terrible. however, pin missile isn't "ass coverage" with steel >_>. also, an interesting calc:

+1 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Pin Missile (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard X: 153-180 (51.5 - 60.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

yeeeaaahhhh a 4x resist being 2HKOed by it...

eh, this really isn't the place to argue pin missile's worth. ~_~

Mega Charizard X > 4x resist bug. Get your facts right please.

Also, yes Pin missile would only be viable IF Mslowbro was still living it up in our land of stabmons, but usually it's weak, luck based and outclassed. But still wyanut just run pin missile, koff, superpower and gear grind just because you think shift gear is stupid? (even though it's an amazing set up move. srsly.)
Also sorry OMPL signups. it's just bothered me so much.

 

[motherlove]

Mega Charizard X > 4x resist bug. Get your facts right please.

Also, yes Pin missile would only be viable IF Mslowbro was still living it up in our land of stabmons, but usually it's weak, luck based and outclassed. But still wyanut just run pin missile, koff, superpower and gear grind just because you think shift gear is stupid? (even though it's an amazing set up move. srsly.)
Also sorry OMPL signups. it's just bothered me so much.

with pin missile you can beat quag tho

 

[InfernapeTropius11]

with pin missile you can beat quag tho

To be fair:
4 SpA Life Orb Scizor Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 203-239 (51.5 - 60.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
Just cuz it KOs it doesn't mean it is good LOL HP Grass Scizor OP

 

[ggggd]

ggggd
stabmons
-3
no
free cloyster

 

[EV]

#scizorgate

Anyway, let's move on from the Pin Missile controversy and keep the sign-ups coming in!

 

[Lcass4919]

real men run double dance/gear scizor with bullet punch and gear grind.

 

[canno]

im here

Pokemon Showdown nick: DreMZ
Preferred OMs: STABmons, Monotype, AAA,
Timezone: GMT -7
Foreseen inactivity: I'll more than likely have periods of inactivity (and more than likely a Timezone chance) around June (I believe like around June 12 ish but I need to double check) because I'm going to be travelling.

 

[Erza98]

Pokemon Showdown nick: Pacific Erza
Preferred OMs: 1v1, BH, Tier Shift, Inverse Battle, Mono and AAA
Timezone: GMT +2
Foreseen inactivity: exams in early june and early july plus two weeks in spain in july

 

[Ranger Mike]

Just here to remind unfixable that he said he'd try to draft me n_n

 

[Snaquaza]

I'm just here to tell you all that I've talked to Eevee General a few weeks ago and I'm gonna make weekly analyses for the OM hub!

 

[Heisenerg]

Pokemon Showdown nick: Heisenerg
Preferred OMs: BH
Timezone: GMT +10
Foreseen inactivity: Might be busy in about a month for a period of a fortnight.
Peef Rimgar Piccolo Daimao

 

[Lavern]

Pokemon Showdown nick: F4DED
Preferred OMs: Monotype, Almost Any Ability, STABmons
Timezone: GMT +1
Foreseen inactivity: 1 or 3 weeks at the beginning of august