Really happy rn. Literally best mashup to be chosen :-). I’m justI got a sample team I'd like to submit before this show ends and we get on with our next Mashup Spotlight. While this team isn't perfect (it was made by me) I hope it's good enough to give players a general idea of how the STABmons Ubers metagame is like. I won't give off mass amounts of detail, just general info.
Showcasing...
Gusty Winds...
Click on any of the 6 Pokemon above for an importable.
Whew... the winds are gusty tonight, aren't they? It's probably these guys. Well anyway, this was a team I intended to be built around a Dragon Dance Zekrom set without Earth Power. The Zekrom primarily plays a role as a late game sweeper for when its biggest threat(s) are taken care of. What it offers are unique, mostly unresisted, high BP STAB moves with a gift given from the mechanics of this format. This precious model was gifted the ability to dance, boosting the effectiveness of both its STAB moves. We all know this dragon is living and breathing, so every once in a while you have to make sure this dancer sits down, takes a deep breath, and relax. Roost is helpful for sets like this since it enables the Pokemon to last longer and set up more, giving it bigger boosts and helping it sweep. Pokemon from the likes of Kyogre and Zygarde hate this thing already, but holding it off until you find the right opportunity to sweep is what makes this star shine brightest.
From square one I already knew I was heading into trouble with Primal Groudon, so I quickly thought "hmm, what's an unusual Groudon switchin I could have that gains from this meta?" and what popped up in my mind is Mega Latias. Mega Latias is an effective Primal Groudon switchin able to overcome both its STABs and set up on it, but the advantage it gets over its plain Ubers self is the ability to use a high powered special Dragon-type move without risking any sort of stat decrease. This means whatever boosts Calm Mind gives to this Latias, it keeps unless it either switches out or another Pokemon affected it. This Latias also has a stronger Psyshock for Pokemon who think they could still wall. Chansey would be having a sad day just reading this post. I would also like to mention that as usual, dragons need to sit down and breathe sometimes. This doesn't just go for dancing ones, but ones who spend their time trying to meditate. Because of this, Latias utilizes the move Roost to help it set up.
This is the part where I realize everything has Roost...
I brought Landorus to the team because I wanted a Stealth Rock user that was at least somewhat able to defend itself against many Primal Groudon sets better than Primal Groudon itself, and Arceus is banned so this was one of the few Pokemon I was left with. Landorus is equipped with defensive EVs for the use of effective hazard control. With this Pokemon I wanted to make sure I would be able to throw out rocks whenever I wanted, but also defog them whenever I wanted, while keeping the rest of my Pokemon safe. Its EVs are placed as specially defensive due to its intimidate ability already taking care of many worries it would have for physical defense as well as having a physically defensive defogging counterpart somewhere else on the team. U-Turn is added to pivot potentially into a good matchup and at this point we know what Roost does.
Admittedly I have never used this Celesteela. It used to be a Kartana before I replaced it due to its inability to work for the team. The intention I had with this Pokemon was to make sure I had a Fairy-type wall that wasn't weak to Ground or Rock-type moves. This Celesteela is able to Leech Seed on Fairy-type Pokemon or other Pokemon it could wall against, then use King's Shield. Roost makes the process much more annoying for the foe since it's already recovering by Leech Seed. Both King's Shield and its last move, Beak Blast, are used over other moves to lower the defenses of physical attackers, either making them easier to wall and heal off against, or forcing them to switch out, giving it an opportunity to predict and throw a Leech Seed. Mega Mewtwo X is who this Pokemon specifically baits the most, since it will try to set up and use Low Kick against Celesteela if the two had to match up.
Now explaining the Ho-oh, Ho-Oh fits almost all of what I had in mind for a Steel-type, however it's x4 weak to rocks. After putting down my Steel-type, I took a glance at this team and figured, it had nothing to beat Steel-type Pokemon. Because of this I added a Fire-type hard hitter to the table. With Choice Band and V-Create this Pokemon is bound to OHKO a significant portion of the unresisted metagame, and for most things that resist, they can get hit by Dragon Ascent instead. It's not as powerful but it should at least offer a 2HKO to most Pokemon without any damaging recoil. When I built this team, I intended for it to last against offensive teams easier. Because of this, I gave Ho-Oh Sacred Fire over Earthquake. The only purpose of Sacred Fire was to fish for the burns V-Create couldn't pass, in case Pokemon such as Zekrom or Zygarde were trying to switch in. It would more likely harm them permanently.
Speaking of being able to last against offensive teams easier, the last Pokemon was made to be a complete wall. I've decided to use defensive Lunala as my secondary defogger because since my main breaker was Ho-Oh, I figured another Pokemon to clear hazards would be ideal. With its EVs it's meant to survive against the likes of Zygarde, Primal Groudon, and in general, physical attackers. (realistically this team at most is an over preparation of non Toxic Primal Groudon) Its only purposes are to Toxic stall and act as an effective defogger for Ho-Oh along with Landorus. I've given it Ice Beam specifically because Substitute Zygarde is currently a popular set in STABmons Ubers. It could also be replaced by Spectral Thief, but Ice Beam is more effective for damage, other Zygarde sets, Flying-types, and Dragon-type Pokemon of this meta.
That was an explanation I could give for the team. Although I know it's large, yet poor. I hope you enjoy using / fixing it ;_;
Here is a replay of it being used: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-846519887 This was personally my favorite STABmons Ubers team.
Here are all the other legal STABmons Ubers teams I've built: https://pokepast.es/e617b666675b443e As usual, a lot of them were experimental, although most I didn't actually use very much.
Here are all the other STABmons Ubers replays I could find from games I played on this Mashup Spotlight!
Luanshi vs Tapu Baloo: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-846307451
Luanshi vs Roldski: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-846305042
Luanshi vs Little Cuack: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-845927975
Luanshi vs Chronospasm: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-845922289
(2) Luanshi vs Spealisify: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-845238513
(1) Luanshi vs Spealisify and his broken Komala: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-844579901
Luanshi vs Chessking345: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-843770197
Ransei vs Pigeons: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ubers-848526223
Ransei vs We Wuz Nidokangz: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-847002962
Ransei vs icemaster523: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-843221838
Ransei vs Chessking345: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-843218310
Ransei vs Echo0010: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7stabmons-843210717
Let's get on with some news,
1) If you haven't seen from Drampa's announcement, OM Mashups now has a private subroom! Here's the link: OM Mashups
2) I haven't mentioned this earlier, but the ideal ratio of how tours are made have changed. It is now 2 Mashup Spotlight tours per 3 Official Mashup tours per 1 outside of the other 2 categories, 2:3:1.
3) Yesterday I had the OM Mashups community make some sort of speculative VR based on what we've seen over these two weeks. Click the button below to see where we've placed each Pokemon. In the future, I will put this on a separate post, add icons, and make it more accurate.
S Rank
Groudon-Primal
Zygarde-Complete
A+ Rank
Marshadow
Yveltal
Gengar-Mega
Gothitelle
Mega-Mewtwo-X
A Rank
Lunala
Necrozma-Ultra
Xerneas
A- Rank
Blissey
Ho-oh
Salamence-Mega
B+ Rank
Kyogre-Primal
Dialga
Lucario-Mega
Lugia
Gothorita
Rayquaza
Tyranitar
B Rank
Altaria-Mega
Blaziken-Mega
Chansey
Giratina
Landorus-Therian
Latias-Mega
Porygon-Z
Ferrothorn
Kyurem-Black
Kyurem-White
B- Rank
Deoxys-A
Giratina-O
Kartana
Kyogre
Snorlax
Diggersby
C+ Rank
Aerodactyl-Mega
Altaria-Mega
Genesect
Ditto
Deoxys-Speed
Silvally-Normal
C Rank
Naganadel
Shaymin-Sky
Palkia
Pheromosa
Now we have at least a fair amount of resources to introduce newer players who would perhaps give this metagame a shot.
4) The first official Mashup Spotlight has ended, but I didn't make a voting round. For the first spotlight, I decided to handle it similarly to OMotM where people can vote for their own choice. For this I've decided to move towards how LCotM works, and it has been decided. The next Mashup Spotlight is going to be Mix and Mega Little Cup!
Mega Stones and Primal Orbs can be used on non-native Pokemon with no Mega Evolution limit in a Little Cup setting.
Clauses:
Little Cup Clauses*
*Swagger Clause is technically a ban, not a clause, and either way it is not applied in this metagame due to the high quantity of Magic Bounce stones.
Banlist:
Pokemon:
Any Pokemon that is evolved, cannot evolve, or is unobtainable at level 5.
Gligar, Gothita, Misdreavus, Murkrow, Scyther, Sneasel, Tangela, Vulpix
Moves:
Dragon Rage, Sonicboom, Electrify
Items:
Beedrillite, Blazikenite, Gengarite, Kangaskhanite, Mawilite, Medichamite, Pidgeotite, Ultranecrozium Z
FAQ:
Q: Where can I play this?
A: Playable on Rom.psim.us or by tour on the main server.
Q: Can I use Pokemon from the banlist without Mega stones?
A: This should be possible on Rom, however on the main server the tour code has not yet been written for this. For reference, it will involve banning individually the combination of every banned Pokemon + every mega stone.
Q: Why is(n't) X banned?
A: The initial banlist was made to ban as few things as possible while still removing the absurdly broken Pokemon like Gligar and Scyther. Feel free to comment on the banlist and why you feel something should or should not be banned.
/tour new Mix and Mega, Elimination
/tour rules Little Cup, +Gothita, -Gligar + Abomasite, -Gligar + Absolite, -Gligar + Aerodactylite, -Gligar + Aggronite, -Gligar + Alakazite, -Gligar + Altarianite, -Gligar + Ampharosite, -Gligar + Audinite, -Gligar + Banettite, -Gligar + Blastoisinite, -Gligar + Cameruptite, -Gligar + Charizardite X, -Gligar + Charizardite Y, -Gligar + Diancite, -Gligar + Galladite, -Gligar + Garchompite, -Gligar + Gardevoirite, -Gligar + Glalitite, -Gligar + Gyaradosite, -Gligar + Heracronite, -Gligar + Houndoominite, -Gligar + Latiasite, -Gligar + Latiosite, -Gligar + Lopunnite, -Gligar + Lucarionite, -Gligar + Manectite, -Gligar + Metagrossite, -Gligar + Mewtwonite X, -Gligar + Mewtwonite Y, -Gligar + Pinsirite, -Gligar + Sablenite, -Gligar + Salamencite, -Gligar + Sceptilite, -Gligar + Scizorite, -Gligar + Sharpedonite, -Gligar + Slowbronite, -Gligar + Steelixite, -Gligar + Swampertite, -Gligar + Tyranitarite, -Gligar + Venusaurite, -Gligar + Red Orb, -Gligar + Blue Orb, -Misdreavus + Abomasite, -Misdreavus + Absolite, -Misdreavus + Aerodactylite, -Misdreavus + Aggronite, -Misdreavus + Alakazite, -Misdreavus + Altarianite, -Misdreavus + Ampharosite, -Misdreavus + Audinite, -Misdreavus + Banettite, -Misdreavus + Blastoisinite, -Misdreavus + Cameruptite, -Misdreavus + Charizardite X, -Misdreavus + Charizardite Y, -Misdreavus + Diancite, -Misdreavus + Galladite, -Misdreavus + Garchompite, -Misdreavus + Gardevoirite, -Misdreavus + Glalitite, -Misdreavus + Gyaradosite, -Misdreavus + Heracronite, -Misdreavus + Houndoominite, -Misdreavus + Latiasite, -Misdreavus + Latiosite, -Misdreavus + Lopunnite, -Misdreavus + Lucarionite, -Misdreavus + Manectite, -Misdreavus + Metagrossite, -Misdreavus + Mewtwonite X, -Misdreavus + Mewtwonite Y, -Misdreavus + Pinsirite, -Misdreavus + Sablenite, -Misdreavus + Salamencite, -Misdreavus + Sceptilite, -Misdreavus + Scizorite, -Misdreavus + Sharpedonite, -Misdreavus + Slowbronite, -Misdreavus + Steelixite, -Misdreavus + Swampertite, -Misdreavus + Tyranitarite, -Misdreavus + Venusaurite, -Misdreavus + Red Orb, -Misdreavus + Blue Orb, -Murkrow + Abomasite, -Murkrow + Absolite, -Murkrow + Aerodactylite, -Murkrow + Aggronite, -Murkrow + Alakazite, -Murkrow + Altarianite, -Murkrow + Ampharosite, -Murkrow + Audinite, -Murkrow + Banettite, -Murkrow + Blastoisinite, -Murkrow + Cameruptite, -Murkrow + Charizardite X, -Murkrow + Charizardite Y, -Murkrow + Diancite, -Murkrow + Galladite, -Murkrow + Garchompite, -Murkrow + Gardevoirite, -Murkrow + Glalitite, -Murkrow + Gyaradosite, -Murkrow + Heracronite, -Murkrow + Houndoominite, -Murkrow + Latiasite, -Murkrow + Latiosite, -Murkrow + Lopunnite, -Murkrow + Lucarionite, -Murkrow + Manectite, -Murkrow + Metagrossite, -Murkrow + Mewtwonite X, -Murkrow + Mewtwonite Y, -Murkrow + Pinsirite, -Murkrow + Sablenite, -Murkrow + Salamencite, -Murkrow + Sceptilite, -Murkrow + Scizorite, -Murkrow + Sharpedonite, -Murkrow + Slowbronite, -Murkrow + Steelixite, -Murkrow + Swampertite, -Murkrow + Tyranitarite, -Murkrow + Venusaurite, -Murkrow + Red Orb, -Murkrow + Blue Orb, -Scyther + Abomasite, -Scyther + Absolite, -Scyther + Aerodactylite, -Scyther + Aggronite, -Scyther + Alakazite, -Scyther + Altarianite, -Scyther + Ampharosite, -Scyther + Audinite, -Scyther + Banettite, -Scyther + Blastoisinite, -Scyther + Cameruptite, -Scyther + Charizardite X, -Scyther + Charizardite Y, -Scyther + Diancite, -Scyther + Galladite, -Scyther + Garchompite, -Scyther + Gardevoirite, -Scyther + Glalitite, -Scyther + Gyaradosite, -Scyther + Heracronite, -Scyther + Houndoominite, -Scyther + Latiasite, -Scyther + Latiosite, -Scyther + Lopunnite, -Scyther + Lucarionite, -Scyther + Manectite, -Scyther + Metagrossite, -Scyther + Mewtwonite X, -Scyther + Mewtwonite Y, -Scyther + Pinsirite, -Scyther + Sablenite, -Scyther + Salamencite, -Scyther + Sceptilite, -Scyther + Scizorite, -Scyther + Sharpedonite, -Scyther + Slowbronite, -Scyther + Steelixite, -Scyther + Swampertite, -Scyther + Tyranitarite, -Scyther + Venusaurite, -Scyther + Red Orb, -Scyther + Blue Orb, -Sneasel + Abomasite, -Sneasel + Absolite, -Sneasel + Aerodactylite, -Sneasel + Aggronite, -Sneasel + Alakazite, -Sneasel + Altarianite, -Sneasel + Ampharosite, -Sneasel + Audinite, -Sneasel + Banettite, -Sneasel + Blastoisinite, -Sneasel + Cameruptite, -Sneasel + Charizardite X, -Sneasel + Charizardite Y, -Sneasel + Diancite, -Sneasel + Galladite, -Sneasel + Garchompite, -Sneasel + Gardevoirite, -Sneasel + Glalitite, -Sneasel + Gyaradosite, -Sneasel + Heracronite, -Sneasel + Houndoominite, -Sneasel + Latiasite, -Sneasel + Latiosite, -Sneasel + Lopunnite, -Sneasel + Lucarionite, -Sneasel + Manectite, -Sneasel + Metagrossite, -Sneasel + Mewtwonite X, -Sneasel + Mewtwonite Y, -Sneasel + Pinsirite, -Sneasel + Sablenite, -Sneasel + Salamencite, -Sneasel + Sceptilite, -Sneasel + Scizorite, -Sneasel + Sharpedonite, -Sneasel + Slowbronite, -Sneasel + Steelixite, -Sneasel + Swampertite, -Sneasel + Tyranitarite, -Sneasel + Venusaurite, -Sneasel + Red Orb, -Sneasel + Blue Orb, -Tangela + Abomasite, -Tangela + Absolite, -Tangela + Aerodactylite, -Tangela + Aggronite, -Tangela + Alakazite, -Tangela + Altarianite, -Tangela + Ampharosite, -Tangela + Audinite, -Tangela + Banettite, -Tangela + Blastoisinite, -Tangela + Cameruptite, -Tangela + Charizardite X, -Tangela + Charizardite Y, -Tangela + Diancite, -Tangela + Galladite, -Tangela + Garchompite, -Tangela + Gardevoirite, -Tangela + Glalitite, -Tangela + Gyaradosite, -Tangela + Heracronite, -Tangela + Houndoominite, -Tangela + Latiasite, -Tangela + Latiosite, -Tangela + Lopunnite, -Tangela + Lucarionite, -Tangela + Manectite, -Tangela + Metagrossite, -Tangela + Mewtwonite X, -Tangela + Mewtwonite Y, -Tangela + Pinsirite, -Tangela + Sablenite, -Tangela + Salamencite, -Tangela + Sceptilite, -Tangela + Scizorite, -Tangela + Sharpedonite, -Tangela + Slowbronite, -Tangela + Steelixite, -Tangela + Swampertite, -Tangela + Tyranitarite, -Tangela + Venusaurite, -Tangela + Red Orb, -Tangela + Blue Orb, -Vulpix-Base + Abomasite, -Vulpix-Base + Absolite, -Vulpix-Base + Aerodactylite, -Vulpix-Base + Aggronite, -Vulpix-Base + Alakazite, -Vulpix-Base + Altarianite, -Vulpix-Base + Ampharosite, -Vulpix-Base + Audinite, -Vulpix-Base + Banettite, -Vulpix-Base + Blastoisinite, -Vulpix-Base + Cameruptite, -Vulpix-Base + Charizardite X, -Vulpix-Base + Charizardite Y, -Vulpix-Base + Diancite, -Vulpix-Base + Galladite, -Vulpix-Base + Garchompite, -Vulpix-Base + Gardevoirite, -Vulpix-Base + Glalitite, -Vulpix-Base + Gyaradosite, -Vulpix-Base + Heracronite, -Vulpix-Base + Houndoominite, -Vulpix-Base + Latiasite, -Vulpix-Base + Latiosite, -Vulpix-Base + Lopunnite, -Vulpix-Base + Lucarionite, -Vulpix-Base + Manectite, -Vulpix-Base + Metagrossite, -Vulpix-Base + Mewtwonite X, -Vulpix-Base + Mewtwonite Y, -Vulpix-Base + Pinsirite, -Vulpix-Base + Sablenite, -Vulpix-Base + Salamencite, -Vulpix-Base + Sceptilite, -Vulpix-Base + Scizorite, -Vulpix-Base + Sharpedonite, -Vulpix-Base + Slowbronite, -Vulpix-Base + Steelixite, -Vulpix-Base + Swampertite, -Vulpix-Base + Tyranitarite, -Vulpix-Base + Venusaurite, -Vulpix-Base + Red Orb, -Vulpix-Base + Blue Orb, -Dragon Rage, -Sonic Boom, +Shadow Tag
/tour autostart 10
/tour name [Gen 7] Mix and Mega LC
Sample Sets: Wanted
Sample Teams: Wanted
Samples Replays: Wanted
Please note that each Pokemon are required to have their levels manually lowered to 5 for this metagame to be played, since this is LC but the base format we're using for tournaments is Mix and Mega!
here are some cool sets made by me. But in my opinion the best set right now is..
Archeops is just crazy here, maybe this is the time for a potential suspect when people get to know the meta a bit more? Idk, drampa’s decision. Here’re some threats I can think of:
Ghastly with it’s great STAB options, nice coverage and insane stats with Lucarionite / Diancite, this is a special sweeper to rival Abra. Shadow Ball tends to KO a lot of stuff, especially with the seemingly offensive nature of the metagame.
Archen look at my post above
Dratini being basically a weird version of Altarianite Zygarde, with Extreme Speed making it really quite good with its set up and coverage options.
Anorith with Hercronite seems really quite good, getting Rapid Spin, Rock Polish, Rock Blast, Swords Dance, Stealth Rock, etc. So many options and I don’t like using it because it’s hard to decide XP.
Carvanha with Metagrossite, Lucarionite or any decent attacking stone seems pretty neat (#teamsharpedonite)
Webs seems pretty good, with drampa saying he unbanned Little Cup Uber Pokemon, giving speed control to slower Pokemon like Anorith or Cranidos
Cranidos literally like KOs the nom-resisting meta, but I don’t think is broken due to underwhelming other stats.
That’s all I can think of for now, later I’ll probably turn the poorly formatted team up there into a Pokepaste and fix it up a bit after testing to submit for samples.
E: Not wanting to make a new post but drampa's grandpa (sry for tag) I’m in favour of a quickban unless it proves underwhelming after a tour or 2.
E2: this post is only not rediculously long because I’ve done everything I want to in previous posts XP.
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