Yeah, thats right: and with that in mind, please bear with me. I'm attempting to learn my way through the enourmous amount of info that is the pokemon world and as I see it I may be falling prone to the obvious "all offense" teams, which is why I'm coming here for help. If I am posting in the wrong place, let me now.
Okay. So.
Jolly Electivire @ Expert Belt
Thunderpunch
Icepunch
Earthquake
Fire Punch
252atk/252spd/4hp
Yes, I realize that perhaps cross chop would better substitute fire punch. However, I don't have acess to that type of elekid breeding just yet so in the meantime I figured I'd breed an elekid with fire punch, instead. Plus firepunch would aid swampert, who is further down this team.
The idea is to have a so-so sweeper that has good type coverage in its moveset (idealizing the expert belt) and is also relatively fast. Going for the physical because the base attack stat is higher than spAtk. With the good coverage in mind, electivire seems like a good lead to me that can probably start taking out pokemon from the get go (as opposed to switching in, because he doesn't seem to have all that great defense).
The EV spread: a physical attacker, hence the atk, and while yes, having it be jolly would essentially make it really fast, I can't exactly bank on getting that pokemon with perfect speed. At current, out of all the breeding I've done the best I can do is 30 IV for speed.
Jolly Garchomp @ Hmm, I dunno...
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Outrage
Crunch
Stone Edge
Toxic
I'll be honest, Garchomp just looks fucking cool. But that aside, I wanted a dragon on my team and I tend to favor speed so I went with Garchomp. Why no earthquake and dragon claw? Well, electivire already has earthquake...so, would I be making a mistake in assuming that I don't need garchomp to have it? Plus, my next pokemon is swampert and while swampert would get stab with earthquake as well, garchomp has a higher base atk. And I don't altogether see the value in having two dragon moves when outrage is so great by itself. Thus, stone edge.
This pokemon favors physical attacks, hence the atk ev spread, and speed only seems logical given the base speed+ jolly. Ideally taking out some of the things that electivire can't.
Relaxed Swampert @ Leftovers
Ice Beam
Stealth Rock
Hydro Pump
Roar
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Judging from the movesets associated with the rest of my potential team, I decided I kinda desperatel needed water moves, ideally with a pokemon that would benefit with a STAB. And ideally, a pokemon that is somewhat bulky. So we've narrowed it down to bulky water, eh? (Any thoughts on whether or not this is a good conclusion to make relative to my two other pokemon?)
So I explained why no earthquake. Ice beam just seems like a good option given the dragons running rampant, stealth rock is a good setup for long-term damage, hydro pump because I usually play doubles and I'm not currently considering pokemon that would benefit from getting hit by surf, and roar...well, mostly to get rid of pokemon that pose a threat to either me or my buddy in the double battle.
Now this is where I start getting a bit shaky. So far, I have a lot of very physically oriented attackers. With this in mind, I wanted to pick out more special-oriented pokemon and all the while not choosing any pokemon that have too many related weaknesses, and this is where my newbieness shines the most, I think (not that it doesn't shine elsewhere, just here particularly I think). So all the following pokemon I'm not sure about but am considering for the other slots on my team:
Modest Lucario @ Choice Specs
Aura Sphere
Shadow Ball
Flash Cannon
Psychic
As always, I seem to favor faster pokemon so Lucario came to mind. His movepool allows me to even further stretch out which pokemon I can sweep, including pokemon that would be a threat to Lucario himself. Counters which are usually defensive-oriented and my lucario would be, ideally, a special attack beast. Flash Cannon and aura sphere would take advantage of stab.
The next slot I am wholeheartedly debating; I don't know who to put there. Ideally I'd want a ghost--right now I'm meddling between spiritomb, who has no weaknesses, and is somewhat bulky, rotom, who is immune to ground which seems to be a major weakness insofar and who, if is fridged, can use thunderbolt and blizzard with a higher special attack than spiritomb, or hell even dusknoir, who is bulky (and I lack bulky) and can provide aid in the form of status inducing w/ will o wisp, and annoyance with pain split. Still, this isn't anything spiritomb can't learn himself and he wouldn't have weaknesses. I was initially considering rhyperior but he has a ground and fighting weakness and is physically oriented anyway. Plus a ghost type would be aided by my much faster lucario in my double battles.
The last slot, at the moment, I have no real clue. Currently I have acess to an amazing
porygon z @ choice specs with a nature that adds or detracs nothing
252spatk/252speed
with the moveset of
thunderbolt
ice beam
tri attack
dark pulse
But I am concerned with my blatant reliance on glass cannons with this team, so I am not sure I should use him.
Anyway, any help you guys could provide would be amazing: I am sorry if I reek of noobism. I'm here to learn.
Thanks!
Okay. So.
Jolly Electivire @ Expert Belt
Thunderpunch
Icepunch
Earthquake
Fire Punch
252atk/252spd/4hp
Yes, I realize that perhaps cross chop would better substitute fire punch. However, I don't have acess to that type of elekid breeding just yet so in the meantime I figured I'd breed an elekid with fire punch, instead. Plus firepunch would aid swampert, who is further down this team.
The idea is to have a so-so sweeper that has good type coverage in its moveset (idealizing the expert belt) and is also relatively fast. Going for the physical because the base attack stat is higher than spAtk. With the good coverage in mind, electivire seems like a good lead to me that can probably start taking out pokemon from the get go (as opposed to switching in, because he doesn't seem to have all that great defense).
The EV spread: a physical attacker, hence the atk, and while yes, having it be jolly would essentially make it really fast, I can't exactly bank on getting that pokemon with perfect speed. At current, out of all the breeding I've done the best I can do is 30 IV for speed.
Jolly Garchomp @ Hmm, I dunno...
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Outrage
Crunch
Stone Edge
Toxic
I'll be honest, Garchomp just looks fucking cool. But that aside, I wanted a dragon on my team and I tend to favor speed so I went with Garchomp. Why no earthquake and dragon claw? Well, electivire already has earthquake...so, would I be making a mistake in assuming that I don't need garchomp to have it? Plus, my next pokemon is swampert and while swampert would get stab with earthquake as well, garchomp has a higher base atk. And I don't altogether see the value in having two dragon moves when outrage is so great by itself. Thus, stone edge.
This pokemon favors physical attacks, hence the atk ev spread, and speed only seems logical given the base speed+ jolly. Ideally taking out some of the things that electivire can't.
Relaxed Swampert @ Leftovers
Ice Beam
Stealth Rock
Hydro Pump
Roar
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Judging from the movesets associated with the rest of my potential team, I decided I kinda desperatel needed water moves, ideally with a pokemon that would benefit with a STAB. And ideally, a pokemon that is somewhat bulky. So we've narrowed it down to bulky water, eh? (Any thoughts on whether or not this is a good conclusion to make relative to my two other pokemon?)
So I explained why no earthquake. Ice beam just seems like a good option given the dragons running rampant, stealth rock is a good setup for long-term damage, hydro pump because I usually play doubles and I'm not currently considering pokemon that would benefit from getting hit by surf, and roar...well, mostly to get rid of pokemon that pose a threat to either me or my buddy in the double battle.
Now this is where I start getting a bit shaky. So far, I have a lot of very physically oriented attackers. With this in mind, I wanted to pick out more special-oriented pokemon and all the while not choosing any pokemon that have too many related weaknesses, and this is where my newbieness shines the most, I think (not that it doesn't shine elsewhere, just here particularly I think). So all the following pokemon I'm not sure about but am considering for the other slots on my team:
Modest Lucario @ Choice Specs
Aura Sphere
Shadow Ball
Flash Cannon
Psychic
As always, I seem to favor faster pokemon so Lucario came to mind. His movepool allows me to even further stretch out which pokemon I can sweep, including pokemon that would be a threat to Lucario himself. Counters which are usually defensive-oriented and my lucario would be, ideally, a special attack beast. Flash Cannon and aura sphere would take advantage of stab.
The next slot I am wholeheartedly debating; I don't know who to put there. Ideally I'd want a ghost--right now I'm meddling between spiritomb, who has no weaknesses, and is somewhat bulky, rotom, who is immune to ground which seems to be a major weakness insofar and who, if is fridged, can use thunderbolt and blizzard with a higher special attack than spiritomb, or hell even dusknoir, who is bulky (and I lack bulky) and can provide aid in the form of status inducing w/ will o wisp, and annoyance with pain split. Still, this isn't anything spiritomb can't learn himself and he wouldn't have weaknesses. I was initially considering rhyperior but he has a ground and fighting weakness and is physically oriented anyway. Plus a ghost type would be aided by my much faster lucario in my double battles.
The last slot, at the moment, I have no real clue. Currently I have acess to an amazing
porygon z @ choice specs with a nature that adds or detracs nothing
252spatk/252speed
with the moveset of
thunderbolt
ice beam
tri attack
dark pulse
But I am concerned with my blatant reliance on glass cannons with this team, so I am not sure I should use him.
Anyway, any help you guys could provide would be amazing: I am sorry if I reek of noobism. I'm here to learn.
Thanks!
