Unironically the US should have a new March to the Sea, rooting out every Red legislator and jurist.I think you guys should start having violent protests again, and I don't mean this as a joke
Democrats, holding a gun in their hand, gawking at the smoldering crater in their foot: “why would progressives do this?”
Art.It's pretty rich hearing complaints about Democrats in office not doing enough from people who refuse to do the most basic of actions when things don't go their way.
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Anyways, I shouldn't have to explain how courts and state legislatures work. Take a civics class.
Dear man in his thirties: I hear you, learning about government is HARD! Here are some helpful explainers to learn more about how government works, including the state legislatures, division of powers, and the constitution!Art.
Idk what kind of fucking point you think you're making, but you seriously need to check yourself if you're going to start attacking people for giving options to women in places they might see those options. If your outrage is spent attacking the very people trying to protect abortion access (or the people trying to still give women options), it's clear you're neither progressive or a leftistgood thing i am not too poor and traveling out to canada for abortion is legal according to my state.
nice to see that after 30 seconds of pretending that we care abt the poor babies that can't travel we've shifted to 'it's the progressives fault that while we control the house, senate, presidency we can't protect abortion rights. when will they learn how government works?'
this is so mustarded it is beyond the pale even for the dynamics of these forums.
also gonna add these mfers can't even be bothered to vote, so the idea that they would try anything drastic involving a whole lot more effort is extremely funny to meI think you guys should start having violent protests again, and I don't mean this as a joke
I don’t think I’ve ever actually gotten mad at a post on smogon. Boo836, I would like to commend you for this.
I am angry about how much this all sucks and how preventable it was. I’m sure you’ve seen the posts. Obama in his 2nd term issuing a statement that “abortion rights aren’t a big priority” (paraphrasing). Pelosi currently endorsing an anti-abortion incumbent democrat in his campaign for re-election against a pro-abortion democrat challenger. I have watched the Biden administration spend 16 months introducing what would be genuinely good legislation only for it to get killed by, surprise, other democrats.
And you know what? I voted for this shit!!! I spent 3 hours waiting in line so I could vote for Hillary and blue everything else in 2016. I voted for Biden and blue everything else in 2020. You can even check my posts from 2 years ago— as disappointed as I was that Biden was the nominee, I was convinced Biden was a significantly better option than not voting at all. A large component of that was specifically because I knew trump 2020 meant the end of roe.
And look where we are. The democrats are in power, have accomplished, like honestly what significant thing have they even done in 2021 or 2022? We have watched a republican minority effortlessly stonewall whatever democrats want to do AND on top of that they’re about to achieve one of their greatest political goals of the last 30-40 years in overturning roe.
Your response? Should have voted harder, cwl. Myzozoas point about how, hey it’s actually not that easy for every single person to just, go somewhere else to get an abortion, is met with, like Christ you calling them regressive for making that observation?
And as for civics? We are witnessing, again, a republican minority that is about to overturn a policy that is actively favored by 58% of Americans and disfavored by 28%. How are they doing this? Because when they were in power they rammed as many judges and justices into lifelong offices that were not only sympathetic to their policies, but actively aligned with them, while successfully blocking many of the democratic parties attempts whenever they tried to do the same. We witnessed a literal coup attempt over a year ago. The only significant repercussions for those responsible have been for the rubes who were convinced to do the dirty work. People fucking died because of this event!
I am a cis white man born into significant financial privilege. I’m not going to pretend that the right for abortion and reproductive freedom is as drastic for me as it is for others. I am autistic, and bisexual, and I read Alitos opinion. There is no doubt in my mind that the next step after roe will be for me to be, by law, a second class citizen. And I have it nowhere near as bad as other historically marginalized groups. This shit is personal. I am genuinely baffled how someone can go through life, see this situation, and craft condescending posts about, lol, civics videos, in response.
I've been kind of thinking that something is seriously wrong with the current judicial system for awhile. It seems like the original intention with Supreme Court appointments in particular was that the President and the Senate would have to agree on someone with the wisdom and morals to do what was best for the country and its people, but instead it just devolved into "the only acceptable nomination is a yes-man for my party". People expressed concern at the time, but now we're really seeing the potential effects.And as for civics? We are witnessing, again, a republican minority that is about to overturn a policy that is actively favored by 58% of Americans and disfavored by 28%. How are they doing this? Because when they were in power they rammed as many judges and justices into lifelong offices that were not only sympathetic to their policies, but actively aligned with them, while successfully blocking many of the democratic parties attempts whenever they tried to do the same.
Yup… unless we can change the law to explicitly provide reasonable access as a right.If Roe vs Wade gets overturned it doesn't mean abortion is Federally banned, it just means states get to decide.
So if you live somewhere Liberal / left your abortion rights won't change, or might even be expanded. But if you live in, Texas for example, get fucked.
Hopefully this means Democrats will actually go vote in 2022 but instead they'll probably just blame Biden for everything and have lower turnout than polls suggest giving Republicans yet another undeserved win. As is tradition.
I think that Progressives (except Bernie) have consistently advocated for eliminating the filibuster— it’s just not going to be a near-term political feasibility for the Dems to get a majority big enough to override it, and do so without 2-10 Joe Manchin’s tanking it.That Americans in their mid twenties understand their own systems of governance less than Pokemon mechanics is kind of my point lol. Blaming Democrats for the actions of Republican judiciaries and Republican legislatures is extremely smoothbrained stuff, especially when it's accompanied by implications that having control of the executive and federal legislative branches means they magically decide everything that happens in the country.
It's not even magical thinking, it's just a totally thoughtless conclusion to arrive at. It's an excuse for pretend outrage for people who give so little of a shit that they can't be bothered to learn how the US got there.
please do not question the integrity of our democratic institutions, you wellbutrin eating libtard.The constitution is made up. The Supreme Court is made up. We could literally push all those old people down a flight of stairs. We are literally all choosing to play by these dumb rules.
From my understanding they need a *bigger* margin of control over the government than they actually have to do anything. I am self admittedly "mustarded" so it's ok to correct me if I'm wrong.
Neoliberalism is a forty year old political and economic ideology that isn't even relevant anymore. Using it as shorthand for "things I don't like" makes no sense. Is voting neoliberal now? Are we condemning RSDLP Bolsheviks as neoliberals because of their initial human rights focus and participation in Duma elections? It's wild how we've gone from the electoral politics and revolutionary activity to undertaking neither electoral politics or revolutionary activity. It's this right here that perfectly demonstrates what I mean when I talk about performative politics.don’t get me wrong revolution is a larp but so is doing politics in the neoliberal sense of the word
The filibuster means they don't have complete legislative power. You could get every single Democrat in office unified behind a hive mind and it wouldn't mean shit because the Republicans will just filibuster any proposals into oblivion.Sorry I’m still trying to figure out how you reasoned out that it’s leftists and progressives fault that democrats can’t do anything with complete federal legislative power. Do you mean that like… progressives need to win in hostile red states at the state level also? Genuinely by what magic is it progressives fault that red states are red?
Sounds nice until the Republicans do "better than expected" in 2024 and proceed to make a mockery of this country while the Democrats can do nothing to stop it.Mr hands what are your thoughts on eliminating the filibuster
Two questions:Sounds nice until the Republicans do "better than expected" in 2024 and proceed to make a mockery of this country while the Democrats can do nothing to stop it.
Remember the Democrats use the filibuster as well. They used it quite a bit during Trump's presidency.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/cloture/clotureCounts.htmTwo questions:
What notable situations have the democrats successfully used the filibuster? And what did that prevent?
Are there situations where the democrats could have filibustered, but didn’t, that would have prevented something important? (By important, I mean from the perspective of the ramifications)
I recognize these come of as leading questions but I genuinely do not have answers for these. I of course, have my own opinions on the filibuster as a concept, but would be interested to see a compelling argument for it being worthwhile to keep