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My thoughts too. Priority and scarf beat Gallade, not slower mons. They'd have to deal with stab CC. So yeah, Destiny Bond is very situational.

I think Ice Punch can be run over Knock Off instead of over Zen Headbutt. Zen Headbutt is indispensable since without it, you're walled by M-Venusaur, Amoongus, and any poison type really. Zen Headbutt is also useful for KOing opposing fighting types like Conk and Keldeo without the defense...

I see. Thanks for clarifying with those calcs. I wasn't meaning to say Drain Punch is infinitely better. Just more useful against offensive teams once you've setup because of Gallade's susceptibility to priority. All of the calcs you included were against powerful walls found on balance or stall...

Yeah, agreed. I still find Drain Punch to be infinitely more useful than CC, even against offense. If you're running swords dance, you can heal off damage from priority. For example, Take Bisharp's SP, then heal back to near full health. Then take Scizor's BP, and heal back again. You keep...

I agree with you. I just find CC is better for wallbreaking, and Drain Punch is better for sweeping.

Agreed regarding Poison Jab. Zen Headbutt is too good to give up (The 90 Acc gets frustrating on Showdown Hax though). Psychic and Fighting actually get good coverage with Knock Off. In my experience, Drain Punch has been more useful than CC. I wanted to know what you guys think. CC is better...

Play Rough must 2HKO then, correct? But Absol cannot safely switch in. That makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up Adamant Zoroark.

As a result, Mega Absol will never win against M-Sableye running Foul Play. Since the best you can do is play rough, which won't KO, and he can follow up with Foul Play.

I understand the need to beat M-Sableye. But I've found it underwhelming. 2HKOing doesn't work for Absol since taking one hit will KO it anyways. I agree about the stat drops, I'm just speaking from my experience.

I agree with handling Sableye. As Absol can't handle it if it runs Foul Play. Also, although SD Talonflame runs Jolly nature, they usually run enough Speed EVs to outrun Thundurus. Or is this no longer the case? If so, Talonflame caps around 355-357 speed, but doesn't run enough to outrun Jolly...

Absol doesn't necessarily need dual screens. But I prefer a more HO variant when using M-Absol. I've had some success with Smeargle and sticky web support as well. But M-Absol outspeeds almost everything anyways. So the screens may help him more. In fact, it allows M-Absol to set up SD then...

I still find the best set to be Swords Dance + 3 attacks. But you need godlike prediction skills to pull it off. You can always set up on defensive Rotom-W though, who's incredibly common. He can't burn because of Magic Bounce, and Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt/Volt Switch fail to OHKO.

Who are some good teammates for Absol in OU now? I've always used Talonflame with him to take care of fighting types. And I used to Run Aegislash back in the day. Who works best now?

Does Absol have more or less viability in OU now that ORAS has been released? On one hand, Play Rough is legal with Knock Off. But on another there are new faster threats like M-Lopunny who resists Sucker Punch. M-Sceptile also outspeeds. I feel a lot of the new megas outspeed Absol, which...

I don't think he can counter M-Sableye though since Taunt just gets bounced back by Magic Bounce. Other than that, he may be a good partner to stallbreak certain pokemon.

I apologize, I thought the thread was only for counters. That's negligence on my part. Thanks for informing me!

This thread is painful right now guys. Everyone is posting checks and saying things like "Skarmory" walls Mega Gallade. It doesn't even get close to walling it. It's practically setup bate without whirlwind. Come on guys... Anyways, here's a real counter: Doublade @ Eviolite Ability: No Guard...

Magnezone is also a great teammate. He can trap Ferrothorn and Scizor so Gallade isn't forced to take Bullet Punches or the recoil from Ferrothorn's iron barbs/rocky helmet. He can also come in on a majority of the fairies and force them out or go for a KO. He's a check to birdspam, and can even...

Greninja is so annoying right now. You can run him on pretty much any team but stall and profit. I hate it when they ban stuff here. But I almost feel he needs it now.

I really like the unique Bisharp set. If I can find the room to replace Swords Dance, I think psycho cut would be ten times more useful for KOing Keldeo on the switch. I like it!