whoops
oh well, they get to be the same person now
anyways, JALMONT and clarinet would be my leading lynch candidates, maybe heury if I can figure out what exactly I should be thinking about their posts, they make my brain hurt
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Crisis in CK9++ City [Serial Killer Wins]
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oh well, they get to be the same person now
anyways, JALMONT and clarinet would be my leading lynch candidates, maybe heury if I can figure out what exactly I should be thinking about their posts, they make my brain hurt
Did you read the part where I compared Clar to Boquise after reading a scumgame where Clar bamboozled me to look for comparison points? That's the whole complicated thing.
Also, mindmelds are awesome alignment indicators (and kinda creepy when you view them from the outside). To put it another way, if someone is thinking about things the same way I think about those things when I play Town, how likely are they to be the opposite alignment?
It's like the ultimate mindset read.
oh, that's what you meant
I couldn't follow that too well, noted though
Brainpan_irl:
Found scum mates
Also I'd expext scum somi to put his scum partner towards middle of their reads list, as seen in somi's read list.
Vote: Somitomi
My first real vote. I have posts incoming. Just collecting some thoughts.
Finding out Heury's been faking his votes on me is probably the closest I'll ever get to wanting to dump someone.
Please I just want to be loved and appreciated
A few things to add:
Jalmont is being his usual self, this is NAI in anyway. Absolutely not an optimal d1 lynch.
I will not object to clarinet lynch. Either is fine and I will jump wagon between them but no one else this cycle.
There's a like 50/50 chances that I picked up some strong town or bamboozling myself because I want to believe it so much. Will report more after meditation.
Heury is still not addressing the clarinet thing, it's because he can't, and they are still trying to drive attention away from it.
A few things to add:
Jalmont is being his usual self, this is NAI in anyway. Absolutely not an optimal d1 lynch.
I will not object to clarinet lynch. Either is fine and I will jump wagon between them but no one else this cycle.
There's a like 50/50 chances that I picked up some strong town or bamboozling myself because I want to believe it so much. Will report more after meditation.
Heury is still not addressing the clarinet thing, it's because he can't, and they are still trying to drive attention away from it.
You're still only talking about heury and Clarinet (and now Jalmont I guess). What are your thoughts on somitomi? Panic Station? Mikey? Me?
I like my vote where it is atm
I did scumlean somitomi, recent posts are not scummy at all but the lean is staying for now because I'm paranoid.
The rest is either null or town lean. I don't know a lot of you well enough to have a meta reads.
Also I feel the town/null reads wouldn't contribute to the current situation much.
The rest is either null or town lean. I don't know a lot of you well enough to have a meta reads.
Also I feel the town/null reads wouldn't contribute to the current situation much.
I literally did say why I thought smogon was town, I have no idea how you could have missed or ignored them.
I would break down people's reactions to me into groups:
1) Those that corrected expressed what I may be up to:
Clarinet is really the only who openly expressed correctly that I may be baiting mafia. Hence the reason I mentioned Clarinet being able to elaborate. Didnt want to say then because I wanted more first posters to react to me.
2) Those that didn't have a problem with it:
HealnDeal- "Of everyone who has posted, I'm getting general good or null vibes from all"
Panic Station - Borderline ignored it. It wasn't til in his most recent reads list where he admitted having me at a null at the time
3) Those who were suspicious of me but wanting to wait to see more:
Smogon account
Cancerous- I liked that they called out me not answering yet about about the clarinet elaboration
Sultan of Skook
4) Those that targeted me:
Somitomi
Fenrir Aesir
5) Those that ignored it:
An explosion
Jalmont
Thunder Ballz
Clarinet is my number one town read. I like the town mindset, and even though while reading Rewind I thought Clarinet was town and was wrong, this game feels a little more focused and less controlled by scum mates.
Those in the third category I'm grouping as the second most towniest group, ready to scumhunt and not just jump on a wahon
The top town read of that group is Cancerous, but mainly due to a guess as to what their role is.
I really like Smogon account's town mindset and asking the right questions.
Skultan Skook is the most null of the three.
Group 2 is almost as townie as group 3, but I put them below since a smart mafia may choose to not use it as a ping. If we have a serial killer, Id expect them to be in this group.
I do like the analogy that Panic Station gave me, and I can't put my finger on why I read him a town for it.
HealnDeal also has the right town mindset it feels.
Group 4 has what I believe are two of our scum. Both players not willing to look too deeply at my motivations. Somitomi especially was more assertive than I expected. I understand the meta theyre currently trying to pull off, but still felt a little bit overly "too much". It may be a little inaccurate calling this group those "targeting me". More referencing the fact of how shallow their reads on the "flaw" is. If I were mafia, what would be my motivation?
Group 5 is mostly people that havent posted much and it's all null read for me, though wouldn't surprise me if one were mafia. I do want to pull some attention towards Jalmont. From what I understand of Jalmont's reputation his begining game is not what I expected. I expected a little more. For that reason I cant imagine Jalmont playing this way as scum. Him being a serial killer is also a possibility, but town lean for now.
My reads here are still lacking a little, but Im tired and ended up having less time tonight than Id expected to try to find more appropriate quotes to put with my reads.
1) Those that corrected expressed what I may be up to:
Clarinet is really the only who openly expressed correctly that I may be baiting mafia. Hence the reason I mentioned Clarinet being able to elaborate. Didnt want to say then because I wanted more first posters to react to me.
2) Those that didn't have a problem with it:
HealnDeal- "Of everyone who has posted, I'm getting general good or null vibes from all"
Panic Station - Borderline ignored it. It wasn't til in his most recent reads list where he admitted having me at a null at the time
3) Those who were suspicious of me but wanting to wait to see more:
Smogon account
Cancerous- I liked that they called out me not answering yet about about the clarinet elaboration
Sultan of Skook
4) Those that targeted me:
Somitomi
Fenrir Aesir
5) Those that ignored it:
An explosion
Jalmont
Thunder Ballz
Clarinet is my number one town read. I like the town mindset, and even though while reading Rewind I thought Clarinet was town and was wrong, this game feels a little more focused and less controlled by scum mates.
Those in the third category I'm grouping as the second most towniest group, ready to scumhunt and not just jump on a wahon
The top town read of that group is Cancerous, but mainly due to a guess as to what their role is.
I really like Smogon account's town mindset and asking the right questions.
Skultan Skook is the most null of the three.
Group 2 is almost as townie as group 3, but I put them below since a smart mafia may choose to not use it as a ping. If we have a serial killer, Id expect them to be in this group.
I do like the analogy that Panic Station gave me, and I can't put my finger on why I read him a town for it.
HealnDeal also has the right town mindset it feels.
Group 4 has what I believe are two of our scum. Both players not willing to look too deeply at my motivations. Somitomi especially was more assertive than I expected. I understand the meta theyre currently trying to pull off, but still felt a little bit overly "too much". It may be a little inaccurate calling this group those "targeting me". More referencing the fact of how shallow their reads on the "flaw" is. If I were mafia, what would be my motivation?
Group 5 is mostly people that havent posted much and it's all null read for me, though wouldn't surprise me if one were mafia. I do want to pull some attention towards Jalmont. From what I understand of Jalmont's reputation his begining game is not what I expected. I expected a little more. For that reason I cant imagine Jalmont playing this way as scum. Him being a serial killer is also a possibility, but town lean for now.
My reads here are still lacking a little, but Im tired and ended up having less time tonight than Id expected to try to find more appropriate quotes to put with my reads.
I buy this and I hate that I buy it
however I really hate airing the sk possibilities D1
that's a pretty big scumtell
Sk is 50% chance, pretty high. And serial killer will often appear more town than scum, since they're actually looking for scum with town. I do think we should be hunting scum, not sk right now. Just don't think that it hurts to point out l.
exactly what a 3p would say
it's possible that i'm just an idiot, i'll look at that again
so now I'm having this problem where everyone posting seems to be fairly towny
wonder if wolf team is just mostly the AFKs
wonder if wolf team is just mostly the AFKs
unvote
vote: an explosion
vote: an explosion
It's basically the mindmeld line of thinking (looks like we are mindmelding with Panic) although I don't put that much stock into it. If someone says the same things I think, they're probably coming from the same place.
That's why I like ordering my reads list from towniest to scummiest, particularly on D1. It's difficult to determine how scummy/townie someone individually is, picking the scummier/townier one out of a particular pair is usually easier and then you can just keep adding people by comparing them to people already on the list. It's a good way to get people out of the "null" pile.
Ah, you're channeling Boomfrog. How did I not see this coming?
Hmmm, that is some fine wine. You could be hoping to gain town cred by doing something mafia is unlikely to do. Deliberately being confusing or scummy to bait mafia would be a nice gambit actually, since you can then go "it was part of the plan". It's super effective on me by the way, possibly because of the BF association.
And also because all of this is a bit tinfoil hat...
