Hydreigon (C+ rank) to Defog users, <100 Scarf users, and maybe offensive pivot
Added, thanksHydreigon (C+ rank) to Defog users, <100 Scarf users, and maybe offensive pivot
Decided to add Azu to niche trappers since the other trappers are also pretty nichesry for double post but also add Azu to trappers
Added, thanksi know hoopa and victini are in tr. but put them in setters because both can (and usually do) set their own trick room
Added Keldeo to rain abusers, added Manaphy to niche rain abusers, waiting on vr update for Qwilfish. Addeed xurk to niche tail glow/z-move for the time beingI know I harass this thread alot but add keldeo to rain abusers. Possibly manaphy, omastar and kabutops to niche.some people on the vr thread apparently think swift swim qwilfish is a thing now make what you want of that.
speaking of manaphy, it still has a calm mind mention in its analysis.
It may not be ranked but so are a lot of mons on this thread. possibly readding xurkitree to tail glow and z-hypnosis. It may be trash but it can fulfill it's niche better than a lot of the niche mons on this thread.
I would go on a tangent about niche vs. viable mons on this thread such as calm mind sableye and suicide garchomp but I'm not going to do that since that's a very nitpicky and opinionated topic.
Since Rotom-W is getting na offensive set, it should be added in the "offensive pivots" category
Done, thanksRemove Magearna from Choice Specs btw, that set has died a long time ago :V
Since every webs setter is below B rank, I haven’t sorted them out past on the vr and not on the vrwhy is Shuckle niche for Stealth Rock but not Webs?
Thanks, fixedhydreigon is in both regular and niche in specs users
doneadd kb as a niche scarfer since it gets a mention on it's analysis
also add clef and mega latias to stallbreaker because CM stored power
This joke is unfunny
Neither are tyrantrum, bronzong, pory2, necrozma, togekiss, ribombee, xurk, but all these are here in the role compendiumits not on the vr so i dont think its allowed to be on this
Could you expand a bit on the set?
should be added to Entry Hazards as a Stealth Rock setter, while niche, it's capable of effectively setting them up and keeping them up.
Added it since ABR's been using table stallmaybe add avalugg as a physical wall and spinner. I've seen it on least 3 successful stall teams and it does have its niches
Added both, thanks for the justification on Necro.
Necrozma @ Mind Plate / Expert Belt
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Photon Geyser
- Earth Power
- Heat Wave
With this set Necrozma is capable of pressuring a lot of Defog users like Gliscor, Kartana, Mega Scizor, Rotom-W, and Zapdos, some of the most common Defog users currently. It's also capable of threatening a lot of opposing Stealth Rock setters like Landorus-T, Clefable (if Mind Plate), Heatran, and Ferrothorn. Mind Plate allows Necrozma to always 2HKO Clefable but Expert Belt can be used to ensure a 2HKO on Celesteela and potentially 2HKO CB Tyranitar.
GMars
E: Hoopa-U should be added to NP set up too