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credits to theorymon & molk for the op (edited a little bit)
The ORAS RU Role Comparison Project
Have you ever pinpointed a Pokémon on one of your teams, where you find it's role to be extremely useful for your team, but wonder "man, if only there was a similar Pokémon that had more manageable flaws for my team"? If so, this is the thread for you! Believe it or not, there tend to be a lot more Pokémon that can achieve a certain role than you think, but often times, these Pokémon are obscure, or they may be common Pokémon using an unusual set, so the people who are looking for such a "role replacement" may end up never finding it!
This thread aims to fix that problem! The main goal of this thread is to highlight certain Pokémon sets, by comparing them to more common Pokémon who fulfill similar roles, both the advantages and the disadvantages! This way, people who feel like their team could use with some changes can get some tips from this thread, or if they are just making a team with certain roles in mind, they can be exposed to some Pokémon that deserve more usage! Also, don't worry if you can't think of any good examples, commenting on examples already mentioned to incite discussion is fine too!
Here's to get you guys started. Feel free to use the same format, since it gets right to the point, but if you feel the need to deviate a bit, that's fine too!
ANYONE CAN PARTICIPATE!
Delphox as an offensive psychic type vs: Sigilyph
Delphox @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- Grass Knot
Delphox's Advantages
1. Typing: The largest difference is a resistance to Fairy type attacks, meaning Delphox can soft check CB Granbull. Delphox also has a resistance to Ice, making it a check to both Mega-Glalie and Abomasnow, while Sigilyph can only check Abomasnow at full health and Mega-Glalie under the same conditions if it hasn't mega evolved yet.
2. STAB Fire Blast: The damage difference Delphox's Fire Blast has vs Sigilyph is expressed pretty clearly vs Pokemon like Steelix. Obviously the STAB Fire Blast OHKO's while Sigilyph barely 2hkos. Some other differences are Delphox's ability to OHKO Amoonguss w/o getting Spore'd. Fire Blast makes Delphox the stronger wallbreaker overall.
3. Blaze: At low health, Delphox is capable of dealing massive amounts of damage. Sets such as SubSalac or Choice Scarf can truly make use of this to sweep weakened teams.
4. Speed: 104 Speed reaches things Sigilyph can only hope to outspeed. One of those is M-Glalie, which is the largest reason in my opinion that one would use Delphox over Sigilyph. The other is Flygon, which offensive variants can be a huge issue for Sigilyph.
Delphox's disadvantages
1. Lack of Magic Guard: The hazard weakness limits the amount of times Delphox can come in, while Sigilyph can come in infinitely thanks to Magic Guard. Delphox needs hazard supporter to function properly, while Sigilyph cares very little. Delphox is also beaten by Toxic easier, meaning that it has a hard time actually beating stall on its own and instead only breaks it or cleans.
2. Typing: Flying / Psychic has a few advantages over Fire / Psychic, one being that it serves as a better Fighting resist. Sigilyph can actually switch-in on attackers like Choice Scarf Medicham, while Delphox cannot. The lack of a water weakness means that Sigilyph can hold its own vs Pokemon such as Slowking, which Delphox cannot.
3. Lack of Recovery: Roost puts Sigilyph at a great advantage over Delphox, giving it durability vs balance and stall. Sigilyph can 1v1 many stall teams when supported correctly thanks to Roost, while Delphox gets widdled down very easily and has to depend on Substitute.
Some other ideas include: Delphox vs Houndoom, any bulky water vs any bulky water, Meloetta vs Hoopa, Meloetta vs Sigilyph, Rhyperior vs Mega Steelix, Uxie vs Mesprit, Manectric vs Jolteon, Eelektross vs Manectric and many more! Feel free to do as many as you want (not all obviously O_O)
credits to theorymon & molk for the op (edited a little bit)
Have you ever pinpointed a Pokémon on one of your teams, where you find it's role to be extremely useful for your team, but wonder "man, if only there was a similar Pokémon that had more manageable flaws for my team"? If so, this is the thread for you! Believe it or not, there tend to be a lot more Pokémon that can achieve a certain role than you think, but often times, these Pokémon are obscure, or they may be common Pokémon using an unusual set, so the people who are looking for such a "role replacement" may end up never finding it!
This thread aims to fix that problem! The main goal of this thread is to highlight certain Pokémon sets, by comparing them to more common Pokémon who fulfill similar roles, both the advantages and the disadvantages! This way, people who feel like their team could use with some changes can get some tips from this thread, or if they are just making a team with certain roles in mind, they can be exposed to some Pokémon that deserve more usage! Also, don't worry if you can't think of any good examples, commenting on examples already mentioned to incite discussion is fine too!
Here's to get you guys started. Feel free to use the same format, since it gets right to the point, but if you feel the need to deviate a bit, that's fine too!
ANYONE CAN PARTICIPATE!
Delphox as an offensive psychic type vs: Sigilyph
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- Grass Knot
Delphox's Advantages
1. Typing: The largest difference is a resistance to Fairy type attacks, meaning Delphox can soft check CB Granbull. Delphox also has a resistance to Ice, making it a check to both Mega-Glalie and Abomasnow, while Sigilyph can only check Abomasnow at full health and Mega-Glalie under the same conditions if it hasn't mega evolved yet.
2. STAB Fire Blast: The damage difference Delphox's Fire Blast has vs Sigilyph is expressed pretty clearly vs Pokemon like Steelix. Obviously the STAB Fire Blast OHKO's while Sigilyph barely 2hkos. Some other differences are Delphox's ability to OHKO Amoonguss w/o getting Spore'd. Fire Blast makes Delphox the stronger wallbreaker overall.
3. Blaze: At low health, Delphox is capable of dealing massive amounts of damage. Sets such as SubSalac or Choice Scarf can truly make use of this to sweep weakened teams.
4. Speed: 104 Speed reaches things Sigilyph can only hope to outspeed. One of those is M-Glalie, which is the largest reason in my opinion that one would use Delphox over Sigilyph. The other is Flygon, which offensive variants can be a huge issue for Sigilyph.
Delphox's disadvantages
1. Lack of Magic Guard: The hazard weakness limits the amount of times Delphox can come in, while Sigilyph can come in infinitely thanks to Magic Guard. Delphox needs hazard supporter to function properly, while Sigilyph cares very little. Delphox is also beaten by Toxic easier, meaning that it has a hard time actually beating stall on its own and instead only breaks it or cleans.
2. Typing: Flying / Psychic has a few advantages over Fire / Psychic, one being that it serves as a better Fighting resist. Sigilyph can actually switch-in on attackers like Choice Scarf Medicham, while Delphox cannot. The lack of a water weakness means that Sigilyph can hold its own vs Pokemon such as Slowking, which Delphox cannot.
3. Lack of Recovery: Roost puts Sigilyph at a great advantage over Delphox, giving it durability vs balance and stall. Sigilyph can 1v1 many stall teams when supported correctly thanks to Roost, while Delphox gets widdled down very easily and has to depend on Substitute.
Some other ideas include: Delphox vs Houndoom, any bulky water vs any bulky water, Meloetta vs Hoopa, Meloetta vs Sigilyph, Rhyperior vs Mega Steelix, Uxie vs Mesprit, Manectric vs Jolteon, Eelektross vs Manectric and many more! Feel free to do as many as you want (not all obviously O_O)
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