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Resource [PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING] LC Analysis Reservation Thread

Discussion in 'LC Analyses' started by Corporal Levi, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. Aaron's Aron

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    This is true.

    As for Venipede, and Numel too since we're on the subject, if OP and Levi could get together and discuss who has what analysis, that would be great. There is a big mishmash of people attempting to claim these two. I'm not saying you did anything wrong of course, but we (me, you, and a few others) definitely need some clarification on who has what. Also I think someone already has Venipede if I recall correctly, although again there is still some confusion on the claiming of it should he lose it.
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  2. Corporal Levi

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    Numel is currently available unless Vyfe returns within the next couple of days. While you did reserve it earlier, you already currently have three analyses in progress. Of course, you can re-reserve if after you have finished Machop, Numel is still available.

    Venipede was taken over by MeButYou82 but has not been worked on for the past two weeks, so I have reassigned it to Drew. MeButYou, feel free to post in this thread for what you have in mind if you have an idea for another set or Pokemon that needs an analysis.
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  3. Gummy

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    Alolan Meowth looks like it was dropped by Fiend since the thread is locked. Can I take it? n_n
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  4. Aaron's Aron

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    /me sighs
    Re-reserving Numel then. I don't mind that Drew is doing it. I just wish OP would've communicated with me that it was a no. I had all my analyses up to date and I was looking to do more, but he would never respond to my messages. I literally could've done like four more analyses in the time I sat around waiting, and since he never told me no I assumed he was just waiting to say yes. Just some more communication would be nice. Thanks.

    EDIT: Also, since we're on the subject, can you or OP tell me what I have reserved then? Cause I thought I knew, but obviously I don't. Thanks.
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  5. Altariel von Sweep

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    Reserving Exeggcute as its the only Pokemon who hasn't got a current analysis, as I'm ending QC with Wynaut.

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  6. Xayah

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    So a long time ago, or well like half a year but still, I made this post
    http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-lc-analysis-reservation-index.3509147/page-25#post-7006612
    Back then, I was new and just wanted to write an analyses for Whismur, which I genuinely believed had a niche. Except I had forgotten Porygon existed, which made Whismur completely irrelevant, as even its best role, Trick Room attacker, was done much better by Porygon due to access to Trick Room, much better bulk and power, similar coverage, better abilities, etc. Now however, Porygon is banned, so for a 0.5k post, I'm just going to try again, hoping that people now knowing me helps me.

    While Trick Room teams are definitely not the best teams due to the very short duration, Whismur does have a notable niche on them thanks to its incredible coverage, with moves like Fire Blast, Ice Beam, and Shadow Ball on the special side, and Hammer Arm, Zen Headbutt, and the elemental punches on the physical side, as well as access to STAB Hyper Voice to pass through Substitute. The combination of this with just enough power to hit most things fairly hard allows it to be a pretty good revenge killer or even wallbreaker on these Trick Room teams. Some calcs to showcase:
    special (open)

    188+ SpA Life Orb Whismur Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Mienfoo: 9-13 (42.8 - 61.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
    188+ SpA Life Orb Whismur Fire Blast vs. 204 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Pumpkaboo-Super: 13-18 (52 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    188+ SpA Life Orb Whismur Ice Beam vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Onix: 23-29 (109.5 - 138%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    188+ SpA Life Orb Whismur Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 80 SpD Gastly: 21-26 (110.5 - 136.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    188+ SpA Life Orb Whismur Shadow Ball vs. 236 HP / 76 SpD Eviolite Frillish: 13-16 (52 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HK

    physical (open)

    188 Atk Life Orb Whismur Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 196 Def Eviolite Mienfoo: 12-16 (57.1 - 76.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    188 Atk Life Orb Whismur Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 156 Def Eviolite Timburr: 12-16 (50 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    188 Atk Life Orb Whismur Zen Headbutt vs. 132 HP / 116 Def Eviolite Croagunk: 26-31 (113 - 134.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    188 Atk Life Orb Whismur Hammer Arm vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Magnemite: 21-26 (110.5 - 136.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    188 Atk Life Orb Whismur Thunder Punch vs. 0 HP / 156 Def Eviolite Staryu: 13-16 (68.4 - 84.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    The set I'd likely use would be a Life Orb set with Double-Edge | Hyper Voice / Fire Blast | Ice Beam / Hammer Arm | Zen Headbutt | Ice Beam / Shadow Ball with an EV spread of 84 HP / 188 Atk / 12 Def / 188 SpA / 12 SpD with a Quiet nature to maximize Whismur's power on both sides and its bulk is abysmal anyways. Quiet > Brave because Whismur doesn't need a boosting nature in Attack to achieve its KOes but it does need it in Special Attack.

    Of course Whismur is by no means a good Pokemon. A combination of low Speed, low power, and low bulk is never nice, as it makes Whismur overreliant on Trick Room, which it can't set up itself, and on low accuracy-high power moves like Fire Blast. However I think its niche on Trick Room set means it deserves recognition.

    Now go tear me to shreds.


    Nah, Whismur sucks - levi

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  7. sam-testings

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  8. blizzardy

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    Drew dropped Stufful. I'll take it over.

    edit: jk lmao

    edit 2: Altariel let me take over exeggcute

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  9. parivard

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    Can I take Lord Skorupi?
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  12. Drew

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    Taking Scarf Snivy and Trubbish, both approved by Levi
  13. sam-testings

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    [12:11 PM] sam-testings: or can i just take growlithe, the dude hasnt been on since beggining of june
    [12:11 PM] sam-testings: er july
    [12:15 PM] OP: ya you can take that over

    wee
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    I'm doing my Snubbull set
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    could i take stufful?

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  17. Corporal Levi

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    will do mixvull this weekend

    i plan to call it Shrugaby until it is literally edited out of the post
  19. God Alphikarpic

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    Hey, I want to reserve Magikarp. I know he's shit and all, but I know how Magikarp works.
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  20. OP

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    Sorry, we're not going to be giving Magikarp an analysis for the foreseeable future, it just has no competitive niche.

    As a sidenote, Growlithe is up for grabs as sam has decided to drop it.
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  21. God Alphikarpic

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    Ahhh, I see... oh well, that can't be help after all.
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  22. MeButYou82

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    growlithe please!

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  23. Drew

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