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Haruno

Skadi :)
is a Tiering Contributor Alumnus
Alright fam, as Jesus Christ, the literal personification of the church, I am fine accepting new members into the church. We will accept anyone, as long as you're not a spooky spooky necromancer because the church doesn't discriminate. If you're the head of one of the factions, I'd be happy to spread my will unto thee so you don't get corrupted by spooky undead! :] ty.
 
Twin - Today at 7:56 PM
how does host errors
prevent you
from knowing ur team
Haruno - Today at 7:57 PM
because going from 50 => 40
changed some things
in my team chat
that agape overlooked
Twin - Today at 7:57 PM
do u have teammates or not
Haruno - Today at 7:58 PM
yes.
Twin - Today at 7:58 PM
did any of them claim recruiter in thread
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
nope.
And seeing as how the church starts up divided, fake claiming as church is 100% suicidal.

since i'll know by day 1
Twin - Today at 7:59 PM
funny
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
if you're part of the church or not.
Twin - Today at 7:59 PM
you say that
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
how so?
Twin - Today at 8:00 PM
Agape - Today at 3:00 PM
teams start united yes

Haruno - Today at 8:01 PM
That was before he realized his error rofl.
Twin - Today at 8:01 PM
what was the error then
Haruno - Today at 8:02 PM
well I'm not giving up faction info for free
unless I have a very good reason to.
Twin - Today at 8:03 PM
Aura Guardian - Today at 8:03 PM
every member of every faction is aware of every other member, save for Free Agents

Haruno - Today at 8:04 PM
have fun with that info then.
Twin - Today at 8:04 PM
I'll ask you my question earlier then
are you a fa?
Haruno - Today at 8:05 PM
Church
Rofl
Twin - Today at 8:05 PM
but u claimed church is divided
if ur fa just tell me
Haruno - Today at 8:08 PM
I swear I'm church
ROFL
Twin - Today at 8:08 PM
then why is your faction divided
Haruno - Today at 8:09 PM
host error. Like I'm going to keep stressing this point.
Twin - Today at 8:09 PM
is your faction
still divided then
??????????
Haruno - Today at 8:09 PM
no.
Twin - Today at 8:09 PM
cause that is what u said 10 minutes ago
Haruno - Today at 8:09 PM
they fixed the error
Twin - Today at 8:09 PM
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
nope.
And seeing as how the church starts up divided, fake claiming as church is 100% suicidal.
just in 10 minutes eh
lets ask this did any fa give u alias info
Haruno - Today at 8:11 PM
Some. Why?
How about this then, If I'm not church as I claim
what am I?
necromancer?
Twin - Today at 8:11 PM
no clue
doens't matter
probably a free agent
just trying to get some aliases
Haruno - Today at 8:11 PM
I mean
that's everyone's goal
Twin - Today at 8:12 PM
give me these aliases
Haruno - Today at 8:12 PM
that's not alignment indicative at all
Twin - Today at 8:12 PM
and I don't post this log in thread
Haruno - Today at 8:12 PM
Why would I give you aliases?
and for all I know, you're necromancer
Twin - Today at 8:12 PM
why does the necromancer matter
?
Haruno - Today at 8:12 PM
because church is strictly anti necromancer
Twin - Today at 8:13 PM
yeah ur bsing
NEW MESSAGES
Haruno - Today at 8:13 PM
how so?
Twin - Today at 8:13 PM
this is a multifaction
not a town vs mafia
Haruno - Today at 8:14 PM
I'm aware
church is a support faction
Twin - Today at 8:15 PM
u win with other factions?
Haruno - Today at 8:15 PM
besides necromancer
and church abilities strictly stop necromancer and vice versa.

alongside some other cute buffs
Twin - Today at 8:16 PM
every faction win con
is kill everybody else right
NEW MESSAGES
Aura Guardian - Today at 8:15 PM
yes
all other factions

rofl
ur so bad at lying
NEW MESSAGES
Haruno - Today at 8:16 PM
have fun then
that's like saying
"was there hidden factions in official 2"
and straight up asking host that
zzzzzzz
but believe what you want lol
Twin - Today at 8:17 PM
they would say cncnd
then
but whatever
if you want to be recruited to a faction
let me know
NEW MESSAGES
Haruno - Today at 8:17 PM
what does my lying change exactly though
from any faction's point of view
if you think I'm lying at least
Haruno - Today at 8:18 PM
since from my pov you're just blatantly trying to get info from me.
Twin - Today at 8:18 PM
I don't think we need to talk anymore
 

Haruno

Skadi :)
is a Tiering Contributor Alumnus
Twin - Today at 7:56 PM
how does host errors
prevent you
from knowing ur team
Haruno - Today at 7:57 PM
because going from 50 => 40
changed some things
in my team chat
that agape overlooked
Twin - Today at 7:57 PM
do u have teammates or not
Haruno - Today at 7:58 PM
yes.
Twin - Today at 7:58 PM
did any of them claim recruiter in thread
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
nope.
And seeing as how the church starts up divided, fake claiming as church is 100% suicidal.

since i'll know by day 1
Twin - Today at 7:59 PM
funny
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
if you're part of the church or not.
Twin - Today at 7:59 PM
you say that
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
how so?
Twin - Today at 8:00 PM
Agape - Today at 3:00 PM
teams start united yes

Haruno - Today at 8:01 PM
That was before he realized his error rofl.
Twin - Today at 8:01 PM
what was the error then
Haruno - Today at 8:02 PM
well I'm not giving up faction info for free
unless I have a very good reason to.
Twin - Today at 8:03 PM
Aura Guardian - Today at 8:03 PM
every member of every faction is aware of every other member, save for Free Agents

Haruno - Today at 8:04 PM
have fun with that info then.
Twin - Today at 8:04 PM
I'll ask you my question earlier then
are you a fa?
Haruno - Today at 8:05 PM
Church
Rofl
Twin - Today at 8:05 PM
but u claimed church is divided
if ur fa just tell me
Haruno - Today at 8:08 PM
I swear I'm church
ROFL
Twin - Today at 8:08 PM
then why is your faction divided
Haruno - Today at 8:09 PM
host error. Like I'm going to keep stressing this point.
Twin - Today at 8:09 PM
is your faction
still divided then
??????????
Haruno - Today at 8:09 PM
no.
Twin - Today at 8:09 PM
cause that is what u said 10 minutes ago
Haruno - Today at 8:09 PM
they fixed the error
Twin - Today at 8:09 PM
Haruno - Today at 7:59 PM
nope.
And seeing as how the church starts up divided, fake claiming as church is 100% suicidal.
just in 10 minutes eh
lets ask this did any fa give u alias info
Haruno - Today at 8:11 PM
Some. Why?
How about this then, If I'm not church as I claim
what am I?
necromancer?
Twin - Today at 8:11 PM
no clue
doens't matter
probably a free agent
just trying to get some aliases
Haruno - Today at 8:11 PM
I mean
that's everyone's goal
Twin - Today at 8:12 PM
give me these aliases
Haruno - Today at 8:12 PM
that's not alignment indicative at all
Twin - Today at 8:12 PM
and I don't post this log in thread
Haruno - Today at 8:12 PM
Why would I give you aliases?
and for all I know, you're necromancer
Twin - Today at 8:12 PM
why does the necromancer matter
?
Haruno - Today at 8:12 PM
because church is strictly anti necromancer
Twin - Today at 8:13 PM
yeah ur bsing
NEW MESSAGES
Haruno - Today at 8:13 PM
how so?
Twin - Today at 8:13 PM
this is a multifaction
not a town vs mafia
Haruno - Today at 8:14 PM
I'm aware
church is a support faction
Twin - Today at 8:15 PM
u win with other factions?
Haruno - Today at 8:15 PM
besides necromancer
and church abilities strictly stop necromancer and vice versa.

alongside some other cute buffs
Twin - Today at 8:16 PM
every faction win con
is kill everybody else right
NEW MESSAGES
Aura Guardian - Today at 8:15 PM
yes
all other factions

rofl
ur so bad at lying
NEW MESSAGES
Haruno - Today at 8:16 PM
have fun then
that's like saying
"was there hidden factions in official 2"
and straight up asking host that
zzzzzzz
but believe what you want lol
Twin - Today at 8:17 PM
they would say cncnd
then
but whatever
if you want to be recruited to a faction
let me know
NEW MESSAGES
Haruno - Today at 8:17 PM
what does my lying change exactly though
from any faction's point of view
if you think I'm lying at least
Haruno - Today at 8:18 PM
since from my pov you're just blatantly trying to get info from me.
Twin - Today at 8:18 PM
I don't think we need to talk anymore
Who's church then my nig?
 
Reminder to check if the person you're talking to is actually in the game!
Haruno-Today at 10:43 PM
sup fam
rssp1-Today at 11:00 PM
sup
Haruno-Today at 11:05 PM
pathfinder talk y/y?
rssp1-Today at 11:06 PM
sure
im a free agent freelancer
its a hidden faction that can recruit freelancers
that are able to be recruited
however, when free agent freelancers are recruited
Haruno-Today at 11:07 PM
what
rssp1-Today at 11:07 PM
they remain as free agents
and can win with each other
Haruno-Today at 11:07 PM
how does that work
rssp1-Today at 11:07 PM
so its kinda like they gain an additional wincon
and can be recruited twice
Haruno-Today at 11:07 PM
so
rssp1-Today at 11:07 PM
just kidding i'm not in the game
Haruno-Today at 11:07 PM
if u get recruited
you go from free agent freelancer => free agent?
oh
RIP
rssp1-Today at 11:07 PM
LOL
Haruno-Today at 11:07 PM
FUCK
 

shade

be sharp, say nowt
is a Senior Staff Member Alumnusis a Smogon Discord Contributor Alumnus
hello,

i am a free agent. i am planning to create a free agent alliance that i will be referring to as the 'freelancer alliance' henceforth, harping back to the viva days of old. as free agents our best chance of winning is to join the strongest team, if we combine our might and our minds, we can be the one who hold the cards and not the recruiters. at this stage in the game, the recruiters need us more than we need them. this is the most dangerous part of the game, it would be wise to join with me in the freelancer alliance and make the recruiters sing our tune. we do not beg to be recruited, because the recruiters know if they wanna get a man they need to come to us. the recruiters will try and stop this happening, do not listen to them and follow your hearts. this is the true way to glory, not a long slog from c0 when no one really knows what is going on

Find Me. Join The Freelancer Alliance
 

LonelyNess

Makin' PK Love
is a Tournament Director Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Smogon Media Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Simulator Moderator Alumnus
Or, we can just rand one of your alliance members and gain the identities / information of everyone in your little alliance....

Your idea only works if freelancers actually had the ability to deny being recruited.
 

UncleSam

Leading this village
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
Before anyone contacts shade I'll just remind people that A. If you strong refuse recruitment you can't act at all and have to just idle doing nothing while shade decides what you do and B. You can still be killed (thus losing automatically) or hooked + recruited or safeguarded + recruited thus making the strategy meaningless and in fact detrimental for those who attempt it but don't get recruited early; there's also a snowball effect in place wherein once people start claiming to recruiters (as many already have) the remaining free agents have exponentially less power.

In other words don't claim to shade he just wants to sell your info for his own gain

That being said sell me your info pls shade
 

Haruno

Skadi :)
is a Tiering Contributor Alumnus
Due to the existence of a necromancer reviving dead players as undead, I would heavily advise against a FA alliance since that info is easily compromised whether it be through FA becoming undead or say a hook => recruit from a factions part. Or if you must insist on it, don't claim anything confidential.
 

shade

be sharp, say nowt
is a Senior Staff Member Alumnusis a Smogon Discord Contributor Alumnus
i have not asked anyone who came to me interested for sensitive information, i have nothing to gain from it and nothing to gain from selling you out to unclesam. these guys would just be fucked if you rejected their recruit. getting recruited c0 is not what you want, you might end up on the shit team

use your heads lads
 

Haruno

Skadi :)
is a Tiering Contributor Alumnus
i have not asked anyone who came to me interested for sensitive information, i have nothing to gain from it and nothing to gain from selling you out to unclesam. these guys would just be fucked if you rejected their recruit. getting recruited c0 is not what you want, you might end up on the shit team

use your heads lads
Yeah this is bullshit.

As a FA you most certainly want to be recruited c0 since the risks of recruiting are much higher after n0. i assume all teams are relatively balanced from the get go so there is no "shitty" team per se at this point in time. If anything all shade is trying to do is cause discord and get all factions weakened by not letting them get recruits since he's necromancer and has the most to gain from this. Do not listen to this rofl
 

Haruno

Skadi :)
is a Tiering Contributor Alumnus
And as an extra info, necromancer can only recruit dead FA and turn them into undead so if a FA is recruited and killed, then necromancer can't recruit them.

Have fun with this info lads whew
 

LightWolf

lightwoof
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
Before anyone contacts shade I'll just remind people that A. If you strong refuse recruitment you can't act at all and have to just idle doing nothing while shade decides what you do and B. You can still be killed (thus losing automatically) or hooked + recruited or safeguarded + recruited thus making the strategy meaningless and in fact detrimental for those who attempt it but don't get recruited early; there's also a snowball effect in place wherein once people start claiming to recruiters (as many already have) the remaining free agents have exponentially less power.

In other words don't claim to shade he just wants to sell your info for his own gain

That being said sell me your info pls shade
Safeguard specifically says it stops harmful actions.

Come on guys, claim to people who actually read the rules and understand the roles.

EDIT: Haruno despite being confirmed not on their claimed faction, makes sense. shade's idea definitely benefits the suggested Necromancer faction rather than Free Agents. Utilizing at least a Weak Recruitment block till you claim to a faction, Strong if your role is not beneficial pre recruitment is however probably advisable if you care about what faction you end up in.
 
just posting to say that if you get a message from Zelirio in discord that's me, so you don't have to be like "who the is this guy i can't find him on the player list, must be a troll"
 

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