You don't have to wait for it to go OU before you can use it in the tier.
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With Mismagius, you have a team of the top 6 pokes. Lol.
Well they're the top 6 Pokemon for a reason...
And what do people think of Feraligatr with AJ? With SD and Flail, it'll be great late game.
And what do people think of Feraligatr with AJ? With SD and Flail, it'll be great late game.
Yeah, but the top 6 don't always fit together into a perfect team.
Actually, my team has been doing really well, and it doesn't use yanmega, donphan, milotic, or a ghost type. I should be on the leaderboard soon, if my connection stops lagging :( And besides, it seems like a lot of pokes are running ambipom. I find trickscarf Uxie is a much better lead, as it can really set the momentum and wreck stall teams with trick, balanced teams by u-turning for momentum and countering fighters, and offesive by having a super fast thunderwave (even after the trick). But with shaymin and soon roserade gone, I'm running out of grass types, and thus, a decent check to both milotic and rotom.
False. These particular top 6... "are top 6 for a reason".
I think Feraligator will be going BL now with Aqua Jet, overtaking Azumarill.
feraligatr really has trouble putting aqua jet on a moveset. I think if he uses aqua jet it'll either be a CB set (which azumarill arguably does better) or a sd / waterfall / return / aqua jet set (which kabutops also has access to except with a STAB stone edge).
ex point that mix luxray sounds pretty interesting. i'm guessing it's max special attack, thunderbolt / ice fang / hp grass / superpower?
ex point that mix luxray sounds pretty interesting. i'm guessing it's max special attack, thunderbolt / ice fang / hp grass / superpower?
How exactly?
Feraligator getting Aqua Jet isn't that impressive. For example, the Swords Dance set is highly outclassed by Kabutops who has higher speed, higher attack, and STAB Stone Edge to work with. Dragon Dance will suffer from 4mss as Feraligator needs Waterfall-Ice Punch-Earthquake to ensure the best chance to sweep. Choice Band set is obviously outclassed by Azumarril.
Perhaps in OU it might be more effective but I highly doubt it.
I've been using Hp Ice - T-Bolt - Superpower + Crunch. T-Bolt gets Slowbro and Milo, T-Bolt + Superpower covers Registeel, Hp Ice/ Ice Fang for Roserade and Altaria, and Crunch for Rotom + Mismag. The only one who could be a problem is Roserade.. but I back him with Insomnia Honchkrow, so all is well.
Feraligator getting Aqua Jet isn't that impressive. For example, the Swords Dance set is highly outclassed by Kabutops who has higher speed, higher attack, and STAB Stone Edge to work with. Dragon Dance will suffer from 4mss as Feraligator needs Waterfall-Ice Punch-Earthquake to ensure the best chance to sweep. Choice Band set is obviously outclassed by Azumarril.
Perhaps in OU it might be more effective but I highly doubt it.
I've been using Hp Ice - T-Bolt - Superpower + Crunch. T-Bolt gets Slowbro and Milo, T-Bolt + Superpower covers Registeel, Hp Ice/ Ice Fang for Roserade and Altaria, and Crunch for Rotom + Mismag. The only one who could be a problem is Roserade.. but I back him with Insomnia Honchkrow, so all is well.
IT will most likely be used on Choice Band Set, because it has higher attack than Azumarill
Don't forget that Feraligatr doesn't have the cursed Water/Rock typing though, and Torrent can really come handy in some situations.
Everything will end up being a matter of preference, like the Leafeon/Venusaur thing, wheter you want to have those pesky weakness of a faster and more powerful poke, with access to another STAB, or a slower and weaker version of it, with better typing and a situational ability.
I'd go with Kabutops anytime though.
Everything will end up being a matter of preference, like the Leafeon/Venusaur thing, wheter you want to have those pesky weakness of a faster and more powerful poke, with access to another STAB, or a slower and weaker version of it, with better typing and a situational ability.
I'd go with Kabutops anytime though.
Feraligatr is certainly not outclassed by SD Kabutops. First of all, it resists both Aqua Jet and Bullet Punch, so whether you are using it in UU or OU, respectively, it is less susceptible to priority. Torrent boosts Aqua Jet to 90 base power, which is fairly powerful(just as powerful as Scizor's Technician Bullet Punch). While situational, on an average team it is certainly more valuable in OU than Swift Swim. Oh yes, let us not forget that Feraligatr can take Thunderbolts, who has 85 / 83 defenses, unlike Kabutop's shitty 60 / 70. In reality, Kabutops has great dual STAB, but weakness to Earthquake + Close Combat, neutrality to Aqua Jet / Bullet Punch, more situational ability, less bulk(yes, on both sides), Ice Punch > X-Scissor(Venusaur, Torterra, and Roserade come to mind when I think grass types in UU), all mean Feraligatr is easily as good as Kabutops, and for many teams, better.
EDIT: Oh yeah, Mach Punch weakness as well. Totally worth it when Hitmonlee outruns you...
EDIT: Oh yeah, Mach Punch weakness as well. Totally worth it when Hitmonlee outruns you...
Feraligators base attack is 105, Azumarills is 100 (2 x 50)
or is it doubled after the EVs?
or is it doubled after the EVs?
With Huge Power it's much easier to use the actual Attack stats than base stats to compare.
A 252 Atk Adamant Feraligatr has an Attack stat of 339.
A 252 Atk Adamant Azumarill has an Attack stat of 436.
That's roughly the same Attack stat that 252+ Groudon has (base 150 Attack) so see that as you will.
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