Magby (ADV NU Analysis)

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formerly Piexplode
Thanks to Oglemi most of this is just reworded and edited from the Charmeleon Analysis, since it's a very similar Pokemon.

[Overview]
- 2nd-Fastest Fire-type in the tier, and the only one other than Ponyta outspeeding Glalie, giving it an edge over the wide variety of competition.
- Really one-dimensional, isn't going to be doing much apart from its special attacker set, and is very frail.
- Easier to wall than Charmeleon and has less utility than Quilava, whilst is also frailer.
- Main reason to use over Ponyta is that it can OHKO Glalie but not be punished if it switches out as you use it, due to Ponyta requiring Overheat to guarantee the OHKO.

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Thunderpunch
move 4: Overheat / Flamethrower
item: Charcoal
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
- Fire Blast is used as the main STAB move, and with Charcoal equipped OHKOs and thus forces out Glalie.
- Hidden Power Grass shreds apart the Rock-types that would otherwise be able to switch into the Fire-type attacks, as well as easily 2HKOing Whiscash, and providing good coverage alongside its Grass STAB
- Thunderpunch hits Pelipper nastily.
- Flamethrower acts as a more consistent STAB, whilst Overheat hits many targets for extra damage, which can be helpful since it tends to outspeed its foes before it is KOed.
- Hidden Power Water is an alternative over Hidden Power Grass. Whilst it has poorer coverage combined with its Fire STAB, it smacks around Magcargo and other Fire types that sometimes are found in the lead slot.
- Protect or Substitute allows it to scout opposing leads, not that it can do much else.
- Seismic Toss deals consistent damage even versus resistances. The very small pool of Pokemon with HP ever hitting above 400 means that it consistently will at least hurt something, but its damage output is poor for Magby's utter frailty.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- Flareon and other Fire and Dragon types give this set a hard time, making Water- and Rock-types good teammates
- Kecleon also walls this set, meaning Hitmonchan is a great teammate

[Other Options]
-Psychic, Toxic, and Swagger all can have mentions, and ultimately past its Grass/Fire offensive combo it's pretty irrelevant what it runs. Swagger can be nasty to offensive Flareon.

[Checks and Counters]
- Kecleon
- Flareon and Magcargo
- Wailord and other Water-types apart from Pelipper, Whiscash, and Relicanth
- Specially defensive Calm Mind Chimecho
- Sudowoodo just barely avoids the 2HKO from Fire Blast + HP Grass and OHKOes in return with Rock Slide
- Anything fast and Physical can easily revenge kill it.
- Poliwhirl is a notable anti-lead that also anti-leads Glalie.
 
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technically ponyta outspeeds magby and is a fire type (tho its movepool kinda sucks even more)

im not a big fan of protect or sub on magby, i think thunderpunch (for pelipper primarily) and swagger are better choices. You've seen how muych swagger does to flareon, who otherwise counters you. Most of the time when I use Magby, im playing super aggressively anyways
 

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protect doesn't deserve a full slot, that slot should go to tpunch or overheat

hidden power water should be mentioned since magargo is a semi-relevant lead that gets smacked around by it (and other fires)
 

Disaster Area

formerly Piexplode
Added in comments about both of those things.
How's the current slashing? I'm thinking about Fire Blast, HP Grass, Protect/Thunderpunch, Overheat/Flamethrower instead of the current.
 

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