Hi I'm a part of the GG (it may be confirmed or not idk) and I have some issues I'd like to address some problems I see with the viability rankings. Ill just go in order of what I think should be changed.
--> A: This one is probably the least likely to happen buy ya know what are you going to do... Tail Glow/Sub/Doom Desire/Roar with Soundproof. Counters? Well depends on how the user of Dialga plays it. If played correctly the only real counter is a Whirlwind mon that outspeeds Dialga so it doesn't get roared out, or a Prankster Regi/Aegi to play around with Encore and Topsy Turvy. Imposter has trouble beat it cause of Sub, and in most cases Dialga stalls out of pp. And when compared with mons in A- and A ranks, I think Dialga is better than all A- mons, and better than Mega Mewtwo X and possibly Mega Audino as far as effectiveness in its role goes.
--> B+: This mon is honestly only prepared for because Gira/Regi/Aegi are so commonly used for other threats. Aegi struggles with Regi because of Shadow Claw. Oh and if I didn't mention I'm focusing on the PH Shift Gear Facade/Shadow Claw/WoW set. Regi struggles at beating this as well if it doesn't have Encore/Topsy Turvy, and Gira can't break it without Metal Burst/Entrainment or Gastro Acid/Topsy Turvy. Why is this better than Slaking? The spdef. First it survives Ray's Fakespeed combo if Ray comes in to revenge kill when Regi is at 100% and has a shift gear up (this scenario is a lot more common than you would think). Boomburst is a roll for 4 investment with a bit of HP investment with Regi, you can do a bunch of customization with the set goes honestly.
--> B: Its better than Aggron and Metagross and I think those mons are fine in their respective ranks so please move it up to B. Same sets as Aegi/Regi with better defense and has a fun spider web set that's cool on certain teams.
I have to disagree with all of these, unfortunately. Dialga is consistantly mediocre, needing multiple turn to phaze out. Soundproof is also a bad set on it- something like Tinted Lense does far better. The reason its so poor is that it has so many walls- Chansey (non-imp), Registeel, Aegislash, M-Garchomp (dual chop through sub), Magic Bounce, Unaware, Shedinja... it doesn't even hit particularly hard, especially when compared with the likes of Lati@s. About its only saving grace is imposterproofing (either sub or magpull xern), and that's not enough to justify being in the same rank as MMX or Mega TTar.
That set on regigigas is consistantly mediocre, mostly because shadow claw is a terrible move, but also because WoW boosts facade and lets them KO you easily. Slaking is honestly equally good- as far as bulk goes, HP is far superior to defense and special defense for a reason- Chansey. Comparatively, Slaking does far better vs imposters- you can even run, say, a bellyspeed unburden set, or just not worry so much about being KOed. Additionally, the metagame is heavily physically offensive, and while it may not live 2 max sky plate speeds, it can live partially invested ones, ones without an item, or Diancie's, which aren't that uncommon at all. Slaking can also run a final gambit set (s/o
motherlove ) which takes on Tina, something Regigigas fails at. It's perfectly fine where it is.
It might be better than Maggron, but its not better than MegaGross. Regen Metagross can actually take on Mega Rayquaza, Diancie, and Kyub, which Maggron and Mlix fail at (252 SpA Mega Rayquaza Magma Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Mega Steelix: 140-166 (39.5 - 46.8%) -- 71.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Magma damage) without even getting into the specs sets that MGross checks better, or its speed tier and offensive pressure.
--> B: Don't really use this mon but it's annoying to face when using -ate mons. It becomes easier to deal with once rocky helmet gets knocked off but until then you have to play safe or go for hax. It's a cool alternative to usual -ate counters and useful enough to warrant a raise.
--> B: Wow this thing is ranked crazy low. I mean really? It's mixed in with niche stuff like Cress and Palkia? First off it's moldy set is a very reliable answer to Shedinja and can get rocks up nice. Also a check to Ray because Dragon Ascent hits crazy hard. Next up Ive been trying to build around a Magic Guard LO set with Head Smash and Brave Bird and that hits like a fucking truck. Crazy wall breaking and can OHKO Gira. I look forward to using this more, and I don't see any reason for it not to be in the same rank as Slaking and Groudon.
--> C: Annnndddd there goes all credibility in this post. Since most of you are probably gonna skip this part anyway Ill make it short and sweet. Imposter Light Ball is honestly so unprepared for. Imposter Pdon 2HKOs non Fur Coat Gira with V-Create. Copying an -ate user is scary with Boomburst. Try it out, but don't play it like you would a Chansey.
That's it. Shout out to all my gooses.
These, however, I agree with. Groudon is very good in the current metagame. Techno blast, specs sets and magma storm are annoying, but it's getting better and better.
Moldy is neat in my experience, and while i haven't run MGuard it doesn't seem much less effective than Diancie, which works extremely well.
This is where I
Agree Completely. Pikachu is actually insane, and now that I'm using it again I wonder why I ever stopped. It sweeps offense, and has just enough stats to do its job, doing things like living a diancie extreme speed if you lose a tie. While it usually has to be paired up with another pikachu or a bulky glare user, it works extremely well, especially when used alongside stallbreakers like Specs Mray.
As far as my own noms go, I'd like to see what people think about
Metagross to B rank and Kyurem Black to B rank. Metagross has been getting better and better, checking common MMY, MLati, MRay, Mdiancie, MAudino, MTtar, and arceus sets while not being particulalry weak to imposter. I'm not entirely certain, but it seems reasonable.
KYu-B, meanwhile, is one I've been thinking of for a while. It's not particularly good in the current metagame, beating exactly 2 pokemon in the entire A ranks (and only 4 in B). It's too slow, has a mediocre typing, can't abuse special boombursts or coverage, and has no lure sets (Physical/special GW, prankster, and contrary for ray, MGuard for diancie). Overall, it's just not that effective.
