Blaziken with Tera? It is for sure getting banned.
God I hope Ho oh comes back. I need that fucker because Flutter Mane and Zacian is really getting on my nerves in Ubers. And I really hope they give dragon types a major buff like a dragon type close combat. Seriously, dragons have suffered the atrociousness of outrage for too long
you could go for tera fighting to boost body press and resist kowtow cleave if you're planning to turn aggron into the perfect anti-gambit mon
Nope, the post only has the release date and the main ID arwork (the same message was also posted on the official pokemon youtube channel's community tab)
If we're not gonna ban Tera as a whole, IMO not a single mon in Ubers deserves to drop to OU, and as a matter of fact Gliscor, Kingambit and Gholdengo should all still get suspected and (hopefully) get banned. If we're banning it on the other hand, the only mons that could realistically drop and be fine in OU are Regieleki, Moon (I guess it could be manageable without Tera? Not so sure as of yet tbh) and MAYBE Volc. And yeah, I believe that the legendary Trio of assholes mentioned above should still stay banned, if we end up actually banning them after the sus tests. Gholdengo's main problem is Good as Gold, Kingambit's is Supreme Overlord + Sucker Punch creating a toxic environment of guessing games that award bad plays, and we all know what Gliscor's problems are, so Tera shouldn't be much of a factor in this decision.
waterpon maybe, firepon absolutely not. they'd just be shifted down a notch so firepon is suspectworthy instead of quickbanworthy and waterpon is merely surveyworthy instead of suspectworthy. one of the main reasons firepon was so problematic was because she didn't strictly need tera to sweep and a lot of the time mold breaker was actually better (for example, in the heatran matchup)
i agree that minimal drops should be done because when the opposite was done with crown tundra it irreparably damaged gen 8 ou, threw the lower tiers into chaos, and made the entire c&c team quiet-quit, but i fear that the council will make the same mistake thinking "oh yeah we can definitely handle it better this time" and it'll fuck things up even worse than crown tundra. nothing should drop without a survey happening first
what cost? it switches in on sticky web and gains a +1 speed boost then starts spamming leaf storm to boost up even more
i disagree, the OU tier needs baxcalibur and flutter mane to return to the metagame. for balance, of course.
You're a traitor to the Corvichad movement... you can change names and pfps but YOU'LL NEVER ESCAPE YOUR SINS
I wouldn't be surprised as well, I've had several games where it felt borderline impossible to stop due to this set. Any steel gets obliterated by this thing. On the other hand though, there's been games where my opponent didn't manage to support it properly and it got taken out before it could do anything. Definitely a very support reliant mon, which I'm not entirely convinced is too much on it's own.
Honestly, I think the best course of action is to either unban everything at once or ban every dubious mon and retest them with a clear calendar. The upside to unbanning everything is that for sure that's going to be the last time someone asks to retest Flutter Mane in OU, bc you could refer to the unban at the beginning of DLC2 (and I'm saying Flutter Mane but I could say Espathra or Annihilape for that matter). The upside of banning everything is that the meta can develop into something stable, but I'd appreciate that we'd have a semi-firm schedule on retests so that people aren't too insistent. We also should consider what we're going to do with Tera, whether it's going to be the first or last thing to be suspected.
I'm not sure if Heartflame will be balanced or not. It would still completely destroy defensive teams thanks to Mold breaker and no-Tera Dragon / Tera Fire would arguably make it harder to deal with. I guess you could manage it by running stuff like defensive Mence or Arcanine on stall, but that doesn't seem ideal. Its weakness to hazards was a pronounced defense for keeping it unbanned, so maybe a non-Tera Ogerpon would be easier to deal with in practice than it is on paper.
I refuse to go anywhere close to Showdown with Chi-Yu and Chien-Pao allowed in OU
We need a good ice type in OU
Fairy (Tera) + Fire + Fighting STAB on Speed Boost sounds terrifying. You can essentially net it a form of non-recoil 3rd STAB and give it a nearly unwallable type combo. Toxapex isn’t doing so well atm either which helps Blaziken’s case even more.
I agree. My preference for DLC2:
Talking about Waterpon, if Triple Axel gets re-introduced, besides Weavile maybe having again a chance to return OU, if also Waterpon can learn it... oh boi...
