"Innovation"...fren, your Terrak is walled by Bisharp and Ferrothorn lol. Think about that for a second.*sigh*
it's called innovation... and btw I'm pretty sure sableye lives a +2 stone edge...
"Innovation"...fren, your Terrak is walled by Bisharp and Ferrothorn lol. Think about that for a second.*sigh*
it's called innovation... and btw I'm pretty sure sableye lives a +2 stone edge...
It's supposed to be a lead that scares out mega sableye and sets up rocks on it."Innovation"...fren, your Terrak is walled by Bisharp and Ferrothorn lol. Think about that for a second.
The set is not theorymon at all. It's a completely valid set that has been used by xtra a lot of times and he's actually the one who invented it. I've seen him use it a lot of times before and while I don't have replays of it I've seen it in action and it's not bad at all. You should first try the set out and see for yourself. It's actually a great set and not theorycraft at all.I'm gonna suggest that if you're gonna introduce creative sets here, it would probably be best for everyone if you backed them up with some replays. As it stands we have a fair amount of theorycrafting going on, which I'd generally like to avoid in favor of things you've tested and found to be valid.
That set is a gimmick; first u dont need safeguard as stone edge at +2 2kos mega sableye anyways and if u dont have close combat a lot of shit that u are supposed to beat set ups on u like bisharp (rofl), metagross, lucario, heatran, keldeo, exca has a free switch, etc and Xtrashine is a little overated making mindless offense doesn't make a person better than others.It's supposed to be a lead that scares out mega sableye and sets up rocks on it.
The set is not theorymon at all. It's a completely valid set that has been used by xtra a lot of times and he's actually the one who invented it. I've seen him use it a lot of times before and while I don't have replays of it I've seen it in action and it's not bad at all. You should first try the set out and see for yourself. It's actually a great set and not theorycraft at all.
That wasn't really aimed at your set, it was more of a general statement towards a trend I've been noticing with the creative sets (specifically stuff like Scarf Double Dance Terrakion and Ancientpower Togekiss). I'm not questioning the validity of your set, I've seen this one been used myself so I can attest to it's effectiveness, but it is a rather team specific niche and generally your standard Lum SD will be better for this sort of thing.The set is not theorymon at all. It's a completely valid set that has been used by xtra a lot of times and he's actually the one who invented it. I've seen him use it a lot of times before and while I don't have replays of it I've seen it in action and it's not bad at all. You should first try the set out and see for yourself. It's actually a great set and not theorycraft at all.
No it's not a gimmick. And where are you going to get the free turns to set up an SD and hit two stone edges? Once your lum berry is used up, sableye will just burn you again. And that's not even taking into account the fact that you can hit both of them. It doesn't matter that terrakion doesn't beat those pokemon, it's supposed to be a lead that sets up rocks on sableye. Xtra might be overrated but that doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best HO innovators and that he's a good player.That set is a gimmick; first u dont need safeguard as stone edge at +2 2kos mega sableye anyways and if u dont have close combat a lot of shit that u are supposed to beat set ups on u like bisharp (rofl), metagross, lucario, heatran, keldeo, exca has a free switch, etc and Xtrashine is a little overated making mindless offense doesn't make a person better than others.
I called your set a gimmick because it overspecializes on how to beat sableye its like fire blast gyarados for ferro yes it 2kos his most common counter but its a gimmick because if the opponent doesnt have a ferro you wasted a moveslot for a more important move, u win more easily vs sableye (U still win with classic lum berry lead set u dont need safeguard bullcrap) but you lose bisharp, ferro, heatran lol all the steel types of the tier; I always have loved creative sets and i use them a lot but if a set doesnt have a good niche like lets say CBB dragonite (who used to wall keldeo, charizard Y and lando in one package) dont use it because there is a superior set (lead lum berry with close combat over safeguard) that does better what ur creative set is doing but i agree with the xtrashine part the innovation he brings to offense is very appreciated.No it's not a gimmick. And where are you going to get the free turns to set up an SD and hit two stone edges? Once your lum berry is used up, sableye will just burn you again. And that's not even taking into account the fact that you can hit both of them. It doesn't matter that terrakion doesn't beat those pokemon, it's supposed to be a lead that sets up rocks on sableye. Xtra might be overrated but that doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best HO innovators and that he's a good player.
Whatever you think, go ahead and call it a gimmick, I don't really care. But the truth is, it's not. Anyways I'm done here.